Posted on 10/20/2004 4:10:53 PM PDT by ezfindit
A federal judge ruled Wednesday that terror suspects held in Cuba must be allowed to meet with lawyers, and that the government cannot monitor their conversations.
In a sharp rebuke of the Bush administration, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly said the administration "attempts to erode this bedrock principle" of attorney-client privacy with "a flimsy assemblage" of arguments.
The Supreme Court ruled in June that the 600 foreign-born men then held in the Navy-run prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, could challenge their captivity in American courts.
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No!!!!!!! well I'll be. Darn
Sorry.... Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is not U.S. territory.
"U.S. territory" means land owned by the U.S. and the land that Guantanamo Naval Base is on is legally owned by Cuba.
A judge may have ruled that Guantanamo may constitute some sort of U.S. control but Guantanamo is Cuban territory perpetually leased to the U.S. in a lease agreement that states that the lease may not be terminated except by the mutual agreement of both parties.
The yearly "rent" set forth by treaty for the Guantanamo Naval Base land was $2000 in gold.
The U.S. now sends a yearly check for $4,085 to Havana and Castro has refused to cash those checks since 1959.
I spent one year stationed in Guantanamo. If a U.S. civilian contract worker committed a crime, they had to be sent back to the U.S. for trial as no civilian U.S. Court existed on Guantanamo.
"Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly "
Like I say, beware of those two-name people.
What happens if judge's order is not accepted?
What, you mean like Rodham-Clinton or Heinz-Kerry?
What matters is that foreign terrorists have just summarily been many of the same rights that only US citizens had before.
IMO, after sufficient interrogation, these monsters should simply be "disappeared". We can tell them "Good news! You are being released!". Then they can be placed on a cargo plane, and at 10,000 feet over the Atlantic Ocean, they can be thrown from the plane one at a time. For good luck they can each wear a pair of PFC England's panties on their heads. We can say that we dropped them off at the Kabul Airport, and we don't know where they went. Who would miss them, besides the ACLU?
Well, I don't care what she says.
1- She's got a hypenated name. And I recall someone saying (someone important but not important enough for my brain to recall) that a "hyphenated American is not an American" which means in this case . . . you figure it out.
2- These are NOT US Citizens, they have NO rights. None, Nada, Zero, Zip.
3- We are at WAR. The rules are different in a WAR. The enemy is TERROR and these people are TERRORists.
4- This hypenated Judge has NO JURISDICTION for terrorist captives as a result of a war.
5- The hypenated Judge is off her meds and needs a thorough and complete physical including electrolyte work up and all the "scans" known to man.
What IS the world coming to????????
Don't worry. This judge has no authority outside the U.S.
Pentagon: Ex-Detainees Return to Terror
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1247995/posts
Some of these jihad judges should be tossed into Gitmo..of course for the purposes of a study.
I agree. It is a violation of our constitution to not let people accused of law violations (even terrorism) to meet with lawyers. It is a basic right.
Fine. Let them have the third-time-to-pass-the-BAR rejects that end up as public defenders.
They are not accused of law violations; they are enemy combatants captured while actively fighting against our troops or caught plotting acts of terrorism. btw, thinking of terrorism as a criminal act is a 9/10 mindset.
Are you saying they can't declare an American citizen a terrorist and hold him without a lawyer and without telling him the charges against him?
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