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Mystery beast killed near Pollok baffles animal experts
Lufkin (TX) Daily News ^ | 10.13.2004 | LYNN WINTHROP

Posted on 10/14/2004 6:47:18 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide

Local animal experts are having a hard time identifying a strange looking animal killed in Angelina County on Friday — an animal that looks eerily similar to the as yet unidentified "Elmendorf Beast" killed near San Antonio earlier this year.

"What is that?" are the first words out of anyone's mouth when shown photos of the animal, according to Stacy Womack.

The animal's blue-grey skin is almost hairless and appears to be covered with mange. A closer look at the animal's jaw line reveals a serious overbite and four huge canine teeth, and a long, rat-like tail curls behind the animal's emaciated frame.

Womack — who has more than 20 years experience working at Ellen Trout Zoo and for a local veterinarian — said she's seen and handled a lot of different animals, but that she's never seen anything like this one.

"It's not a dog," she said. "I'd bet my lottery ticket on that."

The animal was shot and killed shortly before noon Friday after crawling under her mother's house on O'Quinn Road in Pollok. Womack said large dogs in the yard "went nuts" and alerted the family, but would only whine and wouldn't go under the house with the animal. Her brother shot the animal, tied a rope around it and dragged it out from under the house for a closer look, she said.

Womack was called to take a photograph of the animal, and possibly help identify it, as well. A live animal, just like the one in the picture, darted across the road in front of her car while she was driving to the scene.

When she arrived with her camera and expertise in tow, Womack said she almost couldn't believe what she was looking at.

"It was so necrotic, its tissue was just rotted," Womack said. "It had no hair, a severe overbite and its claws were entirely too long for a dog."

She said the animal's front legs were much smaller than it's hind legs, and that despite it's overall ghoulish appearance, it's extremely long canine teeth were in excellent condition. Also, despite having been shot, there was virtually no blood seeping from the animal's carcass. The animal's ear also "broke like a cookie" when it's head was held up for a photograph, she said

"It's body looked like something that has been dead for a month or so," Womack said. "Like I said, I've worked in the veterinary field for more than 20 years and I've never seen anything that bad."

The animal was male and weighed between 15 and 20 pounds, she said. The identical animal that sprinted across the road ran with it's head down and it's tail between it's legs, according to Womack, but wasn't tall enough to be a coyote or a wolf. She said the live animal is probably the dead one's mate.

"I would just like to see somebody go out there and try to trap the other one," Womack said. "Because it's in misery, too, and what if it gets into the population?"

Womack showed pictures of the animal to a Texas Parks and Wildlife game warden, who "totally freaked out" and called for a department biologist, she said. The biologist told her it was likely a coyote with mange, but wasn't able to match the animal's skull shape — and overbite — with pictures of coyotes in reference books, according to Womack.

Pictures were also dropped off at the Texas Animal Health Commission, where the veterinarian was out of the office and hadn't contacted Womack as of Tuesday afternoon. She said a biologist was on the way to Pollok to collect a tissue sample of the animal, for DNA testing.

"I just want people to be aware that things like this happen," Womack said. "If it's not the mange, it's something that doesn't need to be in the environment."

C.R. Shilling, of the West Loop Animal Clinic in Lufkin said that after seeing pictures of the animal — and stressing that his determination is "pure speculation" — he believes the animal is probably a coyote. The animal likely suffers from demodex mange, he said, and possibly a secondary skin infection or even a congenital skin defect, as well.

"That's just a congenital defect," Shilling said when asked about the animal's unusual jaw configuration. "We'll even get dogs like that in here."

Shilling said that without seeing the animal itself, it's hard to make an exact determination of what the animal might be. The possibility of it being a dog/coyote mix would be "unusual, but possible," he said.

"It appears to be an extremely undernourished dog," Ellen Trout Zoo Director Gordon Henley said after being e-mailed several photos of the animal. "Wild animals don't typically wind up like that, but undernourished, neglected, domestic animals do."

After enlarging one of the photos and conferring with the zoo's veterinarian, Henley said he feels the animal's mangy, crusty skin could be a result of either neglect or living in the wild. Undernourishment or a congenital deformity could have caused the animal's gross overbite, he said.

"I think what we've got here is a poor, suffering, undernourished and possibly abused canid," Henley said. "Possibly a coyote, but more likely a dog."

WOAI-TV in San Antonio has aired several stories on the so-called "Elmendorf Beast" since a nearby rancher shot and killed one earlier this year. The animal depicted on the station's Web site, at www.woai.com, looks eerily similar to the one discovered in Pollok.

The rancher from Elmendorf, located southeast of San Antonio, killed the animal after 35 of his chickens disappeared in one day. The animal was also almost hairless, with blue-grey coloring and four large "fangs." The station reported that tissue from the animal has been sent for DNA testing, and that it will be several more weeks before the tests are completed.

Speculation in the area as to what type of the animal the rancher killed has varied from simple to mystical. Some say it's a wild Mexican hairless dog, and other than the skin condition and jaw, pictures of the breed do bear a resemblance. Others believe it's the mythical chupacabra — or "goat sucker" — an animal Mexican folklorists say stalks rural areas killing livestock.

One area hunting guide even believed the animal might be a muntjac, a small antelope-type animal imported into the state by ranchers, according to the station's online reports. Muntjac are herbivores, but do have upper canine teeth that are elongated into "tusks" that curve outward from the lips. Muntjac are also called "barking deer" for a sound they'll emit to warn others of predators.

Like most deer, however, the Muntjac have split hoofs instead of paws, and certainly don't have long, rat-like tails.

A San Antonio Zoo mammal expert told WOAI-TV the animal is clearly a member of the canine family, and could possibly be a mix between a dog and a coyote. The expert also said the animal was clearly suffering from some sort of skin ailment, and may also have a congenital deformity of some sort.

Sightings of similar animals have been reported across the country, from California to Maryland.


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To: Calpernia

Aaack. Goosebumps here. :-)


101 posted on 10/14/2004 8:49:32 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: deport

Looks like a deer and a fox got it on


102 posted on 10/14/2004 8:49:32 AM PDT by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: Ichneumon
"canines have much more prominent teeth than dogs do."

Yikes; they really do! Thanks!

103 posted on 10/14/2004 8:53:43 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Buggman

It's all just a publicity stunt for the next "Resident Evil" video game. < /sarcasm>


104 posted on 10/14/2004 8:54:36 AM PDT by Homo_homini_lupus (The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.)
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To: Popman

Hmmm.... Almost looks like some sort of marsupial... like the kangaroo family; a dingo or something like that.

But I don't think that any marsupials are carnivorous, are they?

It's a good thing that they aren't much bigger than that, eh?

UJ in ME, where Oppossums have been turning up dead along our roads in the past couple of years.

But... are they really dead... or only pretending? {8^{P~


105 posted on 10/14/2004 9:12:13 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: small voice in the wilderness; Bloody Sam Roberts

Who knew the Gates of Hell would be located in Lubbock?"

er...folks who live there?


106 posted on 10/14/2004 9:16:07 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Dallas59

MUSHROOMS growing out of it's back??!!

Yuchh!; Not the sort of thing you'd really want to suggle up with, eh?

Looks like a "Hound of Hell" if anything does.


107 posted on 10/14/2004 9:21:58 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Who knew the Gates of Hell would be located in Lubbock.

I did.
108 posted on 10/14/2004 9:22:00 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Vision
>Looks like a deer and a fox got it on


109 posted on 10/14/2004 9:24:14 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Hoboken
It's an emaciated dog-coyote halfbreed with necrotized, mangy skin, a malformed jaw resulting in a severe overbite, a ratlike tail and an unusual lack of blood.... answers to the name, Lucky.

You owe me a keyboard.

110 posted on 10/14/2004 9:24:15 AM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: Puppage

BWWAAAHAAHAAA!!! That is too funny!


111 posted on 10/14/2004 9:25:35 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: badgerlandjim

Re #81;

It looks like someone out there has been "Pooching" all too seriesly!

California, right?

Hasta be!


112 posted on 10/14/2004 9:25:48 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: SolidSupplySide

113 posted on 10/14/2004 9:29:05 AM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: FreedomCalls

Often tooth characteristics are unique to a species (which is how paleontologists can often identify a fossil specimen by tooth alone), so with that in mind I thought I'd link some skulls from various canid species, displaying the teeth:

Swift Fox Skull, Vulpes velox

Kit Fox Skull Vulpes macrotis

Gray Fox, Urocyon cinereoargenteus

Red Fox, Vulpes vulpes

Coyote, Canis latrans

Mexican Gray Wolf

Gray Wolf, Canis lupus

(I tried posting the pictures directly, but skullsunlimited.com blocks hotlinks.)

The best candidate looks like the Kit Fox -- most of the others have stouter teeth, or are smaller than the Texas specimen, or have hooked claws unlike the ones in the dead animal, etc.

Kit Fox:

I checked other carnivores, like the raccoon, ringtail, etc., wondering how doglike they might look without their fur, but various features of their skulls/paws would be obviously distinct from the Texas specimen. The only other possible carnivore that might bear a resemblance to the Texas creature is the Coatamundi:

If nothing else, the snout certainly seems to match. And they might look pretty doglike under all that fur. Furthermore, they do range into Texas:

Coatimundi Skull

However, the coati's feet and ears don't look right to me, compared to the Texas creature.

The dewclaws on the paws of the Texas creature still seem to indicate a canid of some type.

114 posted on 10/14/2004 9:41:14 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: SolidSupplySide
Well if we find one alive, we'll know what to feed it:


115 posted on 10/14/2004 9:51:30 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Uncle Jaque

Danged if I know. Don't even remember where I ran across the pic. If real, they could prove to be a hugh problem, though.


116 posted on 10/14/2004 9:53:03 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: SolidSupplySide

Chupacabra for sure.


117 posted on 10/14/2004 9:55:51 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: cricket
Yikes; they really do!

Woof:

On the other hand:


118 posted on 10/14/2004 9:57:54 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

The gates of hell are actually nearer Amararillo but this story is from Lufkin.
Lufkin has its own "charm", though.


119 posted on 10/14/2004 10:02:58 AM PDT by babaloo999 (Liberals say they're "Progressive". So is cancer.-------------------they're, their, whatever)
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To: Uncle Jaque
Hmmm.... Almost looks like some sort of marsupial... like the kangaroo family; a dingo or something like that.

For what it's worth, dingos aren't marsupials -- they're just a type of wild dog native to Australia. They were most likely introduced to that continent from Asia during the Austronesian migration of primitive humans, as they discovered Australia while exploring in canoes.

You're probably thinking of the "marsupial wolf" (see below).

But I don't think that any marsupials are carnivorous, are they?

Actually, yes. The Tasmanian Wolf (sometimes called the Tasmanian Tiger, due to its stripes) was marsupial, and carnivorous:

That last known Tasmanian Wolf died in a zoo in 1933.

The Tasmanian Devil is also carnivorous, and as one website describes it, "Is a scavenger, however it will kill, eating anything from an old boot, grubs and insects, small reptiles, birds, eggs and mammals as large as wallaby."


120 posted on 10/14/2004 10:19:53 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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