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Mystery beast killed near Pollok baffles animal experts
Lufkin (TX) Daily News ^ | 10.13.2004 | LYNN WINTHROP

Posted on 10/14/2004 6:47:18 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide

Local animal experts are having a hard time identifying a strange looking animal killed in Angelina County on Friday — an animal that looks eerily similar to the as yet unidentified "Elmendorf Beast" killed near San Antonio earlier this year.

"What is that?" are the first words out of anyone's mouth when shown photos of the animal, according to Stacy Womack.

The animal's blue-grey skin is almost hairless and appears to be covered with mange. A closer look at the animal's jaw line reveals a serious overbite and four huge canine teeth, and a long, rat-like tail curls behind the animal's emaciated frame.

Womack — who has more than 20 years experience working at Ellen Trout Zoo and for a local veterinarian — said she's seen and handled a lot of different animals, but that she's never seen anything like this one.

"It's not a dog," she said. "I'd bet my lottery ticket on that."

The animal was shot and killed shortly before noon Friday after crawling under her mother's house on O'Quinn Road in Pollok. Womack said large dogs in the yard "went nuts" and alerted the family, but would only whine and wouldn't go under the house with the animal. Her brother shot the animal, tied a rope around it and dragged it out from under the house for a closer look, she said.

Womack was called to take a photograph of the animal, and possibly help identify it, as well. A live animal, just like the one in the picture, darted across the road in front of her car while she was driving to the scene.

When she arrived with her camera and expertise in tow, Womack said she almost couldn't believe what she was looking at.

"It was so necrotic, its tissue was just rotted," Womack said. "It had no hair, a severe overbite and its claws were entirely too long for a dog."

She said the animal's front legs were much smaller than it's hind legs, and that despite it's overall ghoulish appearance, it's extremely long canine teeth were in excellent condition. Also, despite having been shot, there was virtually no blood seeping from the animal's carcass. The animal's ear also "broke like a cookie" when it's head was held up for a photograph, she said

"It's body looked like something that has been dead for a month or so," Womack said. "Like I said, I've worked in the veterinary field for more than 20 years and I've never seen anything that bad."

The animal was male and weighed between 15 and 20 pounds, she said. The identical animal that sprinted across the road ran with it's head down and it's tail between it's legs, according to Womack, but wasn't tall enough to be a coyote or a wolf. She said the live animal is probably the dead one's mate.

"I would just like to see somebody go out there and try to trap the other one," Womack said. "Because it's in misery, too, and what if it gets into the population?"

Womack showed pictures of the animal to a Texas Parks and Wildlife game warden, who "totally freaked out" and called for a department biologist, she said. The biologist told her it was likely a coyote with mange, but wasn't able to match the animal's skull shape — and overbite — with pictures of coyotes in reference books, according to Womack.

Pictures were also dropped off at the Texas Animal Health Commission, where the veterinarian was out of the office and hadn't contacted Womack as of Tuesday afternoon. She said a biologist was on the way to Pollok to collect a tissue sample of the animal, for DNA testing.

"I just want people to be aware that things like this happen," Womack said. "If it's not the mange, it's something that doesn't need to be in the environment."

C.R. Shilling, of the West Loop Animal Clinic in Lufkin said that after seeing pictures of the animal — and stressing that his determination is "pure speculation" — he believes the animal is probably a coyote. The animal likely suffers from demodex mange, he said, and possibly a secondary skin infection or even a congenital skin defect, as well.

"That's just a congenital defect," Shilling said when asked about the animal's unusual jaw configuration. "We'll even get dogs like that in here."

Shilling said that without seeing the animal itself, it's hard to make an exact determination of what the animal might be. The possibility of it being a dog/coyote mix would be "unusual, but possible," he said.

"It appears to be an extremely undernourished dog," Ellen Trout Zoo Director Gordon Henley said after being e-mailed several photos of the animal. "Wild animals don't typically wind up like that, but undernourished, neglected, domestic animals do."

After enlarging one of the photos and conferring with the zoo's veterinarian, Henley said he feels the animal's mangy, crusty skin could be a result of either neglect or living in the wild. Undernourishment or a congenital deformity could have caused the animal's gross overbite, he said.

"I think what we've got here is a poor, suffering, undernourished and possibly abused canid," Henley said. "Possibly a coyote, but more likely a dog."

WOAI-TV in San Antonio has aired several stories on the so-called "Elmendorf Beast" since a nearby rancher shot and killed one earlier this year. The animal depicted on the station's Web site, at www.woai.com, looks eerily similar to the one discovered in Pollok.

The rancher from Elmendorf, located southeast of San Antonio, killed the animal after 35 of his chickens disappeared in one day. The animal was also almost hairless, with blue-grey coloring and four large "fangs." The station reported that tissue from the animal has been sent for DNA testing, and that it will be several more weeks before the tests are completed.

Speculation in the area as to what type of the animal the rancher killed has varied from simple to mystical. Some say it's a wild Mexican hairless dog, and other than the skin condition and jaw, pictures of the breed do bear a resemblance. Others believe it's the mythical chupacabra — or "goat sucker" — an animal Mexican folklorists say stalks rural areas killing livestock.

One area hunting guide even believed the animal might be a muntjac, a small antelope-type animal imported into the state by ranchers, according to the station's online reports. Muntjac are herbivores, but do have upper canine teeth that are elongated into "tusks" that curve outward from the lips. Muntjac are also called "barking deer" for a sound they'll emit to warn others of predators.

Like most deer, however, the Muntjac have split hoofs instead of paws, and certainly don't have long, rat-like tails.

A San Antonio Zoo mammal expert told WOAI-TV the animal is clearly a member of the canine family, and could possibly be a mix between a dog and a coyote. The expert also said the animal was clearly suffering from some sort of skin ailment, and may also have a congenital deformity of some sort.

Sightings of similar animals have been reported across the country, from California to Maryland.


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To: SolidSupplySide
Hmmm... sounds like one of them there dog/human crosses they just developed...


81 posted on 10/14/2004 7:55:15 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: PAR35
>No, but it is where the shuttle wreckage came down . . .

Well, that clears it up --
It's a wolf-deer from Pluto
that got off the farm . . .

82 posted on 10/14/2004 7:56:06 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: deport

Definitely canine. It'd be a lot more recognizeable with the fur, I'll bet.


83 posted on 10/14/2004 7:59:32 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: followerofchrist

I agree completely.

I forgot my sarcasm tag in my post.


84 posted on 10/14/2004 7:59:45 AM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect John Kerry as it's president has forfeited it's right to exist.)
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To: deport; blam; Happy2BMe; devolve
Thanks for the pics, Deport.



85 posted on 10/14/2004 7:59:51 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: badgerlandjim
>sounds like one of them there dog/human crosses they just developed...

We know who to call:
Paging Brigitte Boisselier!
Call for Boisselier . . .



86 posted on 10/14/2004 8:00:29 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: sandyeggo

You got it. . .think Mary has figured it out yet?


87 posted on 10/14/2004 8:01:12 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Popman

could it be a dingo/kangaroo crossbreed?


88 posted on 10/14/2004 8:02:14 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature
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To: GOPJ
"Possibly a coyote, but more likely a dog."

well, okay if it includes. . .a little bit of 'deer'. . .and a little bit of possum; but even that- does still not explain the 'TEETH'. . .

89 posted on 10/14/2004 8:07:21 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: dougherty; Art Bell

Paging Art Bell.

Do it right...


90 posted on 10/14/2004 8:22:43 AM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: cricket
well, okay if it includes. . .a little bit of 'deer'. . .and a little bit of possum; but even that- does still not explain the 'TEETH'. . .

Undomesticated canines have much more prominent teeth than dogs do. For example:

Plus, in the dead [whatever], it looks as if its gums are eroded (possibly by the same disease/condition which caused the loss of fur), which would make the teeth appear unnaturally long, compared to a healthy specimen where the gums would cover more of the length of the tooth.

91 posted on 10/14/2004 8:24:14 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Junior

speaking of an alternate universe...if they find any more, they should slap some Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers on 'em and let 'em loose to roam the Berkeley campus.


92 posted on 10/14/2004 8:24:40 AM PDT by Nexus6
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To: SolidSupplySide

It's an emaciated dog-coyote halfbreed with necrotized, mangy skin, a malformed jaw resulting in a severe overbite, a ratlike tail and an unusual lack of blood.... answers to the name, Lucky.


93 posted on 10/14/2004 8:26:54 AM PDT by Hoboken (NJ is in play)
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To: farmfriend; KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244824/posts?page=46#46 and thread too.


94 posted on 10/14/2004 8:29:41 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Who knew the Gates of Hell would be located in Lubbock.

Mack Davis?

95 posted on 10/14/2004 8:31:11 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: SolidSupplySide

VIVA LA CHUPACABRA!!!


96 posted on 10/14/2004 8:33:23 AM PDT by RUCKUS INC. (Mount St. Helens is just warming up for the impending armageddon should John Kerry win in Nov.)
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To: Calpernia

Eeeeew.

Was it checked for disease?


97 posted on 10/14/2004 8:45:54 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

Don't know. But another freeper above pointed out this is the area the shuttle came down.


98 posted on 10/14/2004 8:47:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: krb
Shar Peis and Huskies are the two dogs that have DNA closest to wolves(of all the domesticated breeds). The picture of this animal looks like a coyote with prognathism with a bad case of demodectic mange. Blue ugly hairless dog conjures up to me a Shar Pei first.
99 posted on 10/14/2004 8:47:58 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: deport

Looks like a hyena with mange.


100 posted on 10/14/2004 8:48:26 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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