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PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE III (live thread)
10.13.04 | Joe, and the rest of FR.

Posted on 10/13/2004 5:19:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

45 minutes to go. If there is already a live debate thread go ahead and delete this.

I understand posting a live thread has become a somewhat of a political ordeal here, when it shouldn't be. So to take the pressure off, I'm posting this anyway. Do I dare? LOL!


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To: Fledermaus

I do question the timing.


7,941 posted on 10/13/2004 9:29:50 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (I cut it three times......It's still too short!)
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To: ApesForEvolution; ventana; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; colorado
UH-OH...buh-bye gun shows???

We have what he said he backed now. I HOPE that's what he's referring to.

Relying on memory, I think in 2000 he supported the compromise bill (all private sales through instacheck or 24 hours) instead of the Lautenberg one(3 days).

Both of them are unacceptable to me.

7,942 posted on 10/13/2004 9:30:17 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: Jorge

I think Bush & Cheney have treated gays with way more dignity than have Kerry & Edwards, who "seem" so sincere it is sickening.

Bush hit a home run tonight with his answer to "is homosexuality a choice?" -- I was cheering!


7,943 posted on 10/13/2004 9:30:48 PM PDT by practicalmom
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To: VA40
I hope we're not making a mistake with this. The spinners afterwards are relying on these stupid polls to decide what to say to the camera.

Unless we all have a program (bot) we are outnumbered no matter what, most of those polls let you vote once, after that they recognize you & you can't vote more than once. The DUmmies use programs that are able to auto vote. Our votes wouldn't make much of a difference when the RATS are cheating.

7,944 posted on 10/13/2004 9:30:52 PM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: epow
Not being Kerry judge, but on Judgment day, who would you rather be Kerry or Bush....no one is perfect but I think I know who I would choose.
7,945 posted on 10/13/2004 9:30:58 PM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: DSBull

Can't answer your question because I never watch CNN. I read why Lutz was fired on some blog.


7,946 posted on 10/13/2004 9:31:21 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I trust NOBODY BUT BUSH! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: practicalmom
I agree.

I feel that the "Cheney's lesbian daughter" comment will be the enduring sound bite of this debate, just as "need some wood?" was the bite for the 2nd debate.

7,947 posted on 10/13/2004 9:31:52 PM PDT by bcoffey (Bush/Cheney: Real men taking charge, talking straight, telling the truth.)
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To: politicalwit
Well NEWBIE...appears you have your tin-foil hat wrapped just a wee bit too tight.

You must have been too offended by my first sentence and failed to read the remainder of my post.

I suggested a stronger argument in your favor than you yourself had given, and then admitted up-front I was too lazy to check your posting history.

Unless of course, I really hit a nerve (grin).

7,948 posted on 10/13/2004 9:32:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ml1954
Those look like gang signs to me. Is she trying to get that vote too?

Hmmm, you may have something there.

All you gangstas vote for H-Roddie-C, yo!

7,949 posted on 10/13/2004 9:32:32 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Kicking Ass & Taking Hyphenated Names!)
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To: kingattax
if john kerry can make crippled people walk, can he make ronron reagan disappear ?

You're lucky I wasn't taking a drink when I read that!

7,950 posted on 10/13/2004 9:32:58 PM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: bcoffey

I wonder if Homosexual groups,including the Logcabinsreps, and denounce this as hate speech, like they would if it were a republican,


7,951 posted on 10/13/2004 9:33:15 PM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: bitt; Dave in Eugene of all places

"'I don't get the deal with Tuhrayzah. She could do better, she doesn't have to be so frumpy - big time campaign like that ougta have had a style consultant for here, ala Hitlery (and here I'm talking about 12 years ago, not today).
Really, she is totally unappealing, and also seems a bit troubled, like she really doesn't want to be out like this. Anybody else see that?'
I think she is bipolar, and uncertain of herself. Talk about a "Stranger in a Strange Land".....! She is truly a classic pysch study...for another day - let's get this election out of the way...."





For at least a month now Terezzza looks like she is on drugs, and depressed. She looked ok at the beginning of this thing, but she has been going down hill fast.

MHO John needs to take care of things at home before there is a family intervention and he finds himself booted out!


7,952 posted on 10/13/2004 9:33:16 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: lawgirl
Girlie man is a hunter? YEAH RIGHT.

Sure he is. He crawls on his stomach with his trusty double barrel 12 gage(Most call it an over/under and it's for ducks, skeet, and trap), plays the wind and outsmarts them. (If I use a shotgun, I use a single barrel pump with sabots)

One letter to the editor in the local paper said the only one who hunts like that is Elmer Fudd and he's huntin' cartoon wabbits....heheheheheeheh.

7,953 posted on 10/13/2004 9:33:24 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: Ciexyz
Kerry: "I'm a hunter. I'm a gun owner. I respect the second amendment and I will not tamper with the second amendment." Huh?

He voted to ban the .30-30 so he needs to STFU.

7,954 posted on 10/13/2004 9:34:14 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: Bandaneira

you missed a good one. Bush showed a sincerity, a passion and a pleasant optimism while driving home many many points against Kerry's liberal background and irrational spending proposals.


7,955 posted on 10/13/2004 9:34:34 PM PDT by bitt
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To: cyborg
KERRY WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER???????

Prosecutor.

7,956 posted on 10/13/2004 9:34:53 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: LS

Yeah, but don't question my
integrity
integrity
integrity


7,957 posted on 10/13/2004 9:35:06 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Salamander
The $2.35 was furniture finishing in a factory and the $4 was working for the gummint. [1980 census office hiring clerk]

Yikes. I remember female friends making $2.35 or $2.85 an hour in the late 80's as a waitress-they were supposed to make up the remainder on tips.

No offense intended, just 'the wrong end of the decade'. My bad.

[Full disclosure: No it wasn't my bad. 1980 was the
aftermath of the Carter years, wasn't it?]

7,958 posted on 10/13/2004 9:35:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bcoffey

Thursday, Oct. 14, 2004 12:06 a.m. EDT

Firestorm Erupts Over Kerry's 'Lesbian' Attack

The White House blasted John Kerry Wednesday night for outing Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter as a "lesbian" during the third and final presidential debate.

"I don't think it was appropriate to bring in the private life of Vice President Cheney and his daughter into this debate at all," White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett told Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity.

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"I thought it was inappropriate and I don't think people like that type of personal politics being brought into the campaign this late in the game," he complained.

Kerry referred to Mary Cheney as a "lesbian" in answer to a question about whether he thought homosexuality was a choice.

"I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as," Kerry told debate moderator Bob Schieffer.

While Ms. Cheney's sexuality had been previously reported, the information was likely news to most debate watchers.

As the controversy heated up over Kerry's lesbian reference, his campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill said that Mary Cheney's sexuality was "fair game."

"There are a lot of questions here about gay marriage and she is someone who's a major figure in the campaign. I think it's fair game," Cahill told Fox.

At least one debate focus group reacted sharply when Sen. Kerry mentioned Ms. Cheney's sexuality.

"That got a very negative reaction in the focus group," said Fox debate correspondent Jim Angle, who noted that even reporters were disturbed by the stunt. "Here in the pressroom, there was a low groan when Sen. Kerry mentioned that," he said.

Fox debate panelist Mort Kondracke said Kerry's "outing" of Mary Cheney was a calculated effort to damage the Bush Cheney ticket in the eyes of conservative voters.

"I think it was totally underhanded - the outing of Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter. . . And it struck me as a low blow designed to weaken the Bush Cheney team with right wingers who might not know that Dick Cheney has a lesbian daughter," he said.

"I think it's dirty pool on the Kerry Edwards campaign's part."

Fox panelist Bill Kristol agreed, and wondered if the Kerry campaign would have to apologize for the gaffe.

"What John Kerry said was unbelieveable," he complained, zeroing in Mary Beth Cahill's "fair game" reference.

"What has Mary Cheney done to make herself 'fair game' for John Kerry to gratuitously introduce this in the debate? I wonder if Kerry's not going to have to apologize tomorrow."

Former Clinton strategist Dick Morris said Kerry's lesbian tactic was "horrible" and "vicious."

"Its worse than the private detectives Bill and Hillary used to use" against opponents, he told Fox


7,959 posted on 10/13/2004 9:35:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: finnigan2
- I like to think of the MSM as dinosaurs who are now looking up, puzzled to see that strange glowing ball getting closer....and closer. The ball is the internet, talk radio and Dubya, all rolled into one.

My thoughts exactly & boy they don't like someone looking over their shoulders. Beware the "buckheads" of the internet!!!! LOL

7,960 posted on 10/13/2004 9:35:34 PM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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