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Governor vows no talks if teachers go on strike
The Courier-Journal | 9/20/2004 | Nancy C. Rodriguez

Posted on 09/20/2004 9:49:21 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat

Gov. Ernie Fletcher said yesterday that the Kentucky Education Association has "gone too far" by calling for an October strike unless the state improves the health-insurance plan for public school employees.

In a statement released yesterday afternoon, Fletcher urged the union to reconsider, and he said unless that happens, "it is inappropriate for me to negotiate in response to an illegal threat." -- The Courier-Journal

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: fletcher; kea; unions
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To: benson106

It is a FINANCIAL challenge when you consider the homeschool parent has to do it without your benefits and pay while still paying into your salary. BTW, do you support rebates for homeschooling parents so they can better educate their own children? As a teacher, I would think you would want the best education for EVERY child, not just the ones you teach and that would include the same financial considerations you want to homeschoolers and those, many of whom struggle, to put their children in private schools.


41 posted on 09/20/2004 11:18:07 AM PDT by cupcakes
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To: cupcakes

I can agree with what you have said. The hard to part is finding the correct criteria to evaluate teachers on.


42 posted on 09/20/2004 11:18:34 AM PDT by benson106
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To: benson106
If I want health care through the school that I teach at, it would cost me $920 a month, YES a month.

I don't believe you.

Show me a URL that I can go to for a public school system where it says it costs this much for their employees health care per month.

43 posted on 09/20/2004 11:18:37 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: benson106

Please tell me you don't use the same profanity with them that you do here?


44 posted on 09/20/2004 11:18:43 AM PDT by cupcakes
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To: benson106
Get real people. Most of you who hate public education were assholes when you were in class.

Oh yeah, well most of you NOW hags who are so adamately in favor of abortion are so ugly that nobody would ever want to have sex with you in the first place.

45 posted on 09/20/2004 11:18:52 AM PDT by VRWCmember (I actually ignored this thread before I posted to it. jfk, 08/2004)
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To: benson106

Well you have three months off and 52 weekends off- so why not get another job to pay for your life insurance? Instead, it appears, you would rather take it from people who themselves don't have health insurance ,who work tons of hours,( weekdays and weekends), and who do not have three months of vacation.


46 posted on 09/20/2004 11:21:34 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (It's not Bush's fault... it's the media's fault!)
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To: benson106

Spell check is your friend..especially when defending teachers..


47 posted on 09/20/2004 11:21:42 AM PDT by pesto
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To: benson106

"And we are only paid for working 9 months"

Your benefits are in force 12 months a year.....


48 posted on 09/20/2004 11:21:45 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: benson106
Don't get too upset, many here at the FR believe all teachers are socialist thugs- though 1/3 of us are Republicans.... They'll talk their smack and bitch and moan at the teachers when it is really the school administration they are upset with...
49 posted on 09/20/2004 11:22:23 AM PDT by Porterville (Men have learned to shoot without missing ...and I have learned to fly without perching on a twig)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Fletcher seems really good. 2012 hopeful maybe?


50 posted on 09/20/2004 11:23:09 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: benson106

Not arguing with you, but I'd like to add my thoughts, as someone who has worked in both the public sector (public school teacher, 18 years; private school, 1 year) and private sector (tech writing in hi-tech/software industry, 17 years).

Private, publicly-held companies must distribute profits to the stockholders first. Workers may not see any of it (not all companies have employee profit-sharing).

A government entity does not make profits - all of its money comes from taxes. So school districts with a "surplus" (unspent budget monies) should return it to the taxpayers.

To keep up with soaring health insurance costs, businesses eliminate/decrease other benefits, have layoffs, and freeze hiring. I haven't had a raise in over 3 years, have lost vacation time, and am doing the work of laid-off coworkers.

Unemployed workers can pay COBRA health insurance at the same high rates as everyone else - they don't get a break simply because they're out of a job.


51 posted on 09/20/2004 11:23:58 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Mmm; your hatred of teachers will chase away conservative teachers that may agree with you on some points... you should look into yourself and try to find why it is you hate teachers. Besides, who doesn't work tons of hours? If you want to play rooster on who works more for less I'd gladly crush any of your preconceived notions..
52 posted on 09/20/2004 11:25:04 AM PDT by Porterville (Men have learned to shoot without missing ...and I have learned to fly without perching on a twig)
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To: Republican Wildcat

The original subject was health care and what they are fighting for. You are the ones that went into everything else.

All I asked was, "Why is it so bad for them to want health care paid for?"


53 posted on 09/20/2004 11:25:21 AM PDT by benson106
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To: Republican Wildcat

Next to government, Unions are the biggest violators of individual rights.


54 posted on 09/20/2004 11:26:29 AM PDT by Protagoras (Free speech is fundamental to a free society)
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To: RFEngineer

What benefits? I can't afford my WONDERFUL BENEFITS.


55 posted on 09/20/2004 11:26:53 AM PDT by benson106
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To: benson106
And for the person who said that teachers know what you are getting into, remeber that when you don't get your raise or increase in your benefits

I am a former teacher who took a huge drop in pay to teach, (I also have a BSEE and MSEE and was a working engineer when I went into teaching.) Teachers must accept their contract. (and I am glad it is a no strike contract). Teachers should look to other ways to lower their med insurance. (Higher deductibles and tort reform come to mind.) Most teachers unions support democrats, and democrats are highly beholden to the trial lawyers assn which is directly responsible for high value awards for malpractice and hence high malpractice insurance costs which drive medical costs higher. Teachers cannot have it both ways. My opinion, Get Over It, keep teaching if that is what you want to do. Accept that high premiums are part of the price of todays set of laws. (I am retired and pay $600 out of pocket fees each month for my medical insurance, and if the costs go up, my fees go up. my retirement plan also pays $400 per month, which does not go up. I think medical fees are high enough, and teachers should join republicans in securing tort reform. That is what they should be fighting for.

56 posted on 09/20/2004 11:26:54 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: cupcakes

Sometimes you have too.


57 posted on 09/20/2004 11:27:12 AM PDT by benson106
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To: benson106

Your question was designed to change the subject.

That's all you have attempted to do this entire thread and don't stop, it appears.


58 posted on 09/20/2004 11:27:29 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: VRWCmember
Oh yeah, well most of you NOW hags who are so adamately in favor of abortion are so ugly that nobody would ever want to have sex with you in the first place.

What is wrong with you? Were you in special ed or something? Why the inappropriate insults that make you look like a disfigured malcontent?

59 posted on 09/20/2004 11:27:40 AM PDT by Porterville (Men have learned to shoot without missing ...and I have learned to fly without perching on a twig)
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To: benson106
How will reducing class sizes show enormous results when you will still have kids (and their parents) in those classes who dont care about education and disrupt the classroom? I do like your statements about getting troublemakers out if they disrupt the classroom. Just seems to me that the class size arguement will not really work until more parents and kids are held accountable for their actions (lack of).

Also I dont think you help yourself any by taking that shot at someone who home schools.

60 posted on 09/20/2004 11:27:43 AM PDT by CastleMan95
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