Posted on 09/20/2004 9:49:21 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
Gov. Ernie Fletcher said yesterday that the Kentucky Education Association has "gone too far" by calling for an October strike unless the state improves the health-insurance plan for public school employees.
In a statement released yesterday afternoon, Fletcher urged the union to reconsider, and he said unless that happens, "it is inappropriate for me to negotiate in response to an illegal threat." -- The Courier-Journal
1. They are attacking someone who just took office as if he personally caused health care rates to increase.
2. They accept the talking points of the KEA as gospel without doing any independent research of their own.
3. When the governor attempted a dialog, they shouted him down and chanted like hormone-ridden teenagers at a pep rally.
4. They don't question the KEA when their funds are spent on negative attacks during campaigns which cause the teacher's concerns to have less credibility with elected officials.
5. They don't seek to fix the underlying problem, they just demand taxpayer subsidies.
6. They don't question the KEA when they endorse the very people blocking efforts to rerform the health care system and bring costs down.
That's just a start, but you get the idea.
I teach in Minnesota. And what point did I prove for you? Why don't you like public education?
And I will be totally honest with you, if you want the best people teaching your kids, then pay the best people to teach your kids. If I can't cut it, and you don't think I am the best when you are paying me to be the best, then get rid of me and I will have no problem with that.
That would work if you were willing to take a pay cut when the company lost money.
I wonder why the media is not reporting the fact that during the boom years of the 90's, the states spent all the money and then some. Any sensible business owner would have saved that money for the lean years. I (as a business owner) would realize that this cannot go on forever and there is bound to be a downturn, so instead of blowing all my money I would have saved it so my company can survive any lean years.
Gov.org does not do that. Everyone got fat raises and money was wasted on things just to spend it.
And we are only paid for working 9 months.
WOW, that is a real challenge teaching two kids in a class. Try teaching in a class with 28 students. Get a real arguement. Put the class sizes down to 14 and you will see some enormous results.
Not at all. I get along well with most of my students. I tell them day one, if you want to do nothing in my class that is fine, but don't bitch about your grade and don't interrupt someone else from learning.
Well than you know what they are fighting for. Medical costs are out of sight. And yes thank you Newt for making them tax exempt.
Okay. That makes sense.
Also, for those of you with all the answers to the eductional problems in this country, why don't you step up and get into the classroom and show us how it is done. If you aren't willing to, then maybe you should back off.
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Don't come with that line. Plenty of freepers who work in the private sector in a speciality would enjoy such a profession, however they don't have the time to get the vaunted teaching certificate to do it. How about teachers fight to help remove that requirement so regular folk can get in and teach? You and your teacher cohorts should back off if you aren't about making it easier for professionals to get into your line of work. Too much competition I bet.
Oh, and we also are "showing you how it is done". Our child goes to a small private CHRISTIAN school. There is less of a concern about the children meeting standards because they are accountable to someONE(THE ONE) more important than their teachers and parents. BTW, these private school teachers make far less then you I bet and they do a stellar, dedicated job. Of course we try to thank them, what we wouldn't give to get some sort of rebate on our property taxes for schools we don't use so we can reward the dedicated private school teacher for their efforts!!!!! Our second choice would be homeschooling, our absolute last choice, and we live in one of those excellent districts, would still be public school.
BTW< I do agree with you regarding mandatory attendance. If a child does not want to be there and learn, school should not become free daycare for the negligent parent. I'm with you all the way on that one. I happen to think there are buttholes on both sides--parents and teachers, the kids kind of learn what they do from both 'adults' in the equation.
I totally agree with you, if i don't produce then i shouldn't get a raise. I can't argue with that.
If you were working for a company that made a profit last year, wouldn't you expect a raise?
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In the private sector, not everyone gets a raise across the board--it is based on performance--what you did to contribute to that profit. And you may have a surplus, that shows good managment or too high taxes in your district. It is not a "profit"--schools do not make money so you are not entitled to the surplus. As long as teachers are adequately paid(that is debatable I'm sure) then this surplus should be spent on programs for the children, buildings/updates if needed, and of course, rebated to the taxpayer. They should not be spent to fatten up your benefits program or pay EVERY teacher a bonus whether they earned it or not, but this is how unions operate to benefit EVERY teacher, even the lousy ones. That isn't right. If you are a good teacher, you should not be afraid to be evaluated and rewarded based on your performance. I'm sure there can be an alternative system of observing classes, and schedules in areas where parental involvement is depressing grades and not really reflecting the effort of the teacher.
My state union is a joke and I am the first on to say that. But don't you dare say that health care is not worth fighting for.
The only issue I can debate is that i know what it is like in a classroom, unlike most of you and most of the union people at the state level.
I think that most of you would be suprised to know that there are a lot more conservatives in education than you realize.
No, the assholes all became members of the NEA.
Also, for those of you with all the answers to the eductional problems in this country, why don't you step up and get into the classroom and show us how it is done.
Many of us are - we're homeschooling, or sending our kids to parochial schools, which are untouchable by the Union.
If they don't pass a class, have these radical parents stop suing school districts when their child is held back.
Isn't tort reform part of the problem, too?
Get real people. Most of you who hate public education were assholes when you were in class.
That doesn't sound like a teacher. That sound smore like a troll.
What high salaries? Can you afford $920 a month for health insurance when my incredibly high salary is $38,000.
(Shaking head) Why do you keep trying to change the subject? In what way are your statements in the context of the original discussion?
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