Posted on 09/14/2004 5:42:26 AM PDT by jmstein7
Apparantly the Feds are not involved because the "Docs" are not being presented to any federal agency as "evidence" or as a "contractual" disclosure. Presenting them on television or the 'net is the same as an entertainment program or satire. First Amendment protections apply.
Good point.
I think, since these forgeries constitute a federal crimes (18 USCS § 3, 18 USCS § 912, 18 USCS § 1001, 18 USCS § 1018, etc.) that the FBI has jurisdiction over this matter.
They take this stuff very seriously. VERY seriously. If we contact them (if enough of us contact them), they WILL investigate.
I think everyone should contact the FBI. Contact them here:
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Tell them that a federal crime has been committed (the forgeries, violating 18 USCS § 3, 18 USCS § 912, 18 USCS § 1001, 18 USCS § 1018, et al), and that there is circumstantial evidence (American Spectator) that the DNC and the Kerry campaign was involved.
Say it in your own words, but there is enough to launch an FBI investigation. If that happens...
Here is the scape goat. Bill Burkett, a disgruntled former Guard officer, ref:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214101/posts
I don't hear a law suit by him, so I have an opinion he can or will lead to the real culprit.
As I said in prior posts, CBS will not admit it is the DNC that gave them the documents. BUT watch and see what individuals(s) they begin to trash. Afraid of the DNC, CBS will get even with the messenger. Read between the lines on attacks. CBS MUST send a message to the supplier's of false documents or they will be victimized again. Other TV networks will join in.
The only surprise to me so far was Brit Hume last night who really went after CBS. Guess FOX is settling an old score.
"Nothing personal, just business." Just my thoughts.
I hope you are right BUT, I doubt the FBI (Bush Administration) wants to be seen as using the FBI as a club against a candidate based on circumstantial evidence. Perhaps another reason CBS won't fess up that the documents are forgeries. Certainly, the FCC could fine CBS and its affiliates as well (ala Janet Jackson.) At any rate, I think the "invstigation", if any, will be NADA till after the election... after all, Clinton still has the White House dinnerware!
I disagree.
When the Sandy Berger "docs in socks" scandal began, FReepers tipped off the FBI that Kerry had on his website (and subsequently deleted) information that resembled the information that Berger was alleged to have pilfered.
The FBI had people over at Kerry HQ the next day.
They work quickly.
I think we should pound away with the idea that these forgeries were by the DNC and the Kerry Campaign. Continue to repeat the story until they are forced to deny it or prove it.
In other words, play the game the same way they do.
I agree.
I want to know the same thing. The American Spectator and Rush both said the documents came from someone in the Kerry campaign. How can we prove it?
Dallas producer for CBS, Mary Mapes:
Two points I find relevant (but not conclusive.)
- Dan Rather's daughter works for the Texas Democrats from where they produced Ken Barnes - whose own daughter called a liar. Perhaps Dan is falling on the sword to protect his daughter as the source.
- These forgeries a quite simply made to order. They echo all the lies that have been spewed since 2000. This would lead me to investigate the DNC.
We need to find a way. This is critical information.
I trust you...but show me.
What class are you in that you can freep? PAY ATTENTION!
Apparently, the American Spectator, USA Today, and the Rush Limbaugh show have some idea.
John Sasso was just hired by the Kerry campaign recently. When Sasso worked for the Dukakis campaign, Dukakis fired him for secretly passing out tapes to the media.
http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0409/06/ip.00.html
BRUCE MORTON, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): John Sasso joining the Kerry campaign? What does it mean? Well, he's been down this road before.
In the 1988 campaign, Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts was running. Sasso at his side. Senator Joseph Biden was running, too, and it was Sasso who handed out tapes alerting reporters to the fact that Biden was using the speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock without attribution.
Listen. NEIL KINNOCK, BRITISH LABOR PARTY: Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Why is Glenys the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to be able to get to university?
SEN. JOSEPH BIDEN (D), DELAWARE: Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? Why is it that my wife, who's sitting out there in the audience, is the first in her family to ever go to college?
MORTON: Biden acknowledged error and withdrew.
BIDEN: I did not say, "To paraphrase Neil Kinnock." I should have.
MORTON: Dukakis, apparently shocked that his staff would play hardball, fired Sasso.
MICHAEL DUKAKIS (D), FMR. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And my job now is to make sure that everybody in my campaign, whether they're volunteers or paid staff or whatever, understand that we just don't do this.
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