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CBS'S BIG BLUNDER? (Credits Free Republic)
New York Post ^ | 9/10/04 | JOHN PODHORETZ

Posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 09/09/2004 10:55:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

September 10, 2004 -- THE populist revolu tion against the so- called mainstream media continues. Yesterday, the citizen journalists who produce blogs on the Internet — and their engaged readers — engaged in the wholesale exposure of what appears to be a presidential-year dirty trick against George W. Bush. What the bloggers and their audiences did was call into profound question the authenticity of four documents proudly trumpeted by CBS News in a much-heralded investigative report on Wednesday night's edition of "60 Minutes" about the president's National Guard service in the early 1970s.

These were "previously unseen documents . . . obtained by '60 Minutes,' " the network bragged Wednesday night on its Web site. Their author, supposedly, was Bush's squadron commander, Jerry Killian, who died 20 years ago.

They "include a memorandum from May 1972," CBS reports, "where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about 'how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November.' " A document dated "18 August 1973" complains that Killian is being asked to "sugar coat" Bush's record. "I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job," the document says.

Liberals went wild with glee about the story, especially after the onslaught on John Kerry's Vietnam record by his fellow Swift-boat veterans.

Kevin Drum, the most talented of the left-wing bloggers, wrote: "This story is a perfect demonstration of the difference between the Swift-boat controversy and the National Guard controversy. Both are tales from long ago and both are related to Vietnam, but . . . in the National Guard case, practically every new piece of documentary evidence provides additional confirmation that the charges against Bush are true."

[snip]The Minneapolis lawyers who run powerlineblog.com were on the case early. Two of the blog's readers directed their attention to a note left on an Internet bulletin board on the freerepublic.com Web site, the 47th posting on the topic there. Post No. 47 pointed out that there was something off about these documents from the 1970s: The spacing between the letters and the words was proportional, and only a few IBM electric typewriters could achieve that effect back then.

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To: falcon1966

CBS: WHERE DID YOU GET THE DOCUMENTS? THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW.


341 posted on 09/10/2004 7:28:31 AM PDT by falcon1966
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To: kattracks
Kevin Drum, the most talented of the left-wing bloggers, wrote: "This story is a perfect demonstration of the difference between the Swift-boat controversy and the National Guard controversy. Both are tales from long ago and both are related to Vietnam, but . . . in the National Guard case, practically every new piece of documentary evidence provides additional confirmation that the charges against Bush are true."

Well, Kevin, not quite. It appears that your boy's "proof" isn't worth the paper it was lasered onto, while the Swifties have made Kerry, with his own words, recant important segments of his Walter Mitty life in Vietnam.

Leave it to the Left to get it exactly and precisely backwards.

342 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:23 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it. - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: stands2reason
Damned if I'm not starting to believe that.
[buffs nails on shirt]

343 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: kattracks

How sad I am at the passing of the Old Media
I propose we dance on their freshly dug cybergrave!

A little dance music:

Weeeee are the Champions, mah Freeeeyahhhnds,
And WEEeeee'll keep on fighting til the end (Doo doot doo dooooooooo)
WEEEeeee are the Champions
WEEEEEEEEE are the Champions
NO time for LOOOSers
Cause WEEEEE are the Champions
(Booom)
Of the wooooorld...


344 posted on 09/10/2004 7:32:41 AM PDT by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: kattracks

Killian DID write those memos. He said so. He told Eleanor Roosevelt, who then relayed it to Hillary.


345 posted on 09/10/2004 7:36:38 AM PDT by pollwatcher (in Memory of the late, great Ted Cassidy (1932-1979) - a Kerry Impersonator well ahead of his time!)
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To: kattracks; Jim Robinson; All

As this hideous CBS thing gets more air time,

I'm feeling increasingly sobered and reminded to pray more for FREEREPUBLIC.COM, JIM AND FAMILY.

It just doesn't make sense to me that given our increasing clout in the political arena in this critical election

--that the puppet masters would continue to ignore us. And these characters play for keeps and have incredible power to do so with.

Thankfully, God is God and has all in His control and is infinitely and supremely powerful.

But I believe we must be responsible to pray for FR and Jim and his family increasingly as the months race by toward even more end-times related dramatic events.

Not just the USA, but the world needs FR to be a potent beacon as long as possible.

Let us be diligent in our praying accordingly.

LUB,


346 posted on 09/10/2004 7:41:20 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: pollwatcher

Maybe this has been stated already but, James Rosen just said that FNC has been on the phone with Killian's son and would have something on that today. Stay tuned.


347 posted on 09/10/2004 7:41:27 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Where I come from, deeds mean more than words. - Zell Miller)
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To: ncpatriot
I also wonder if the White House (anonymously) could use FR

Bad idea.

freerepublic == herding cats

Freerepublic == circular firing squads

Too free for all.
348 posted on 09/10/2004 7:43:05 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"I'd bet the forger is a male, dis-affected, DU type that was born after 1978. (if anyone wants to start a pool)"

I am guessing it might be Ben Barnes. A woman claiming to be his daughter called a radio talk show and said he was lying about using his influence to get Bush into the Guard, in order to promote a book on the subject he has coming out. We know he is lying because Bush entered the Guard in 1968 and Barnes didn't become TX. Lt. Governor until 1969.

If he is going to lie about that, what does he have to lose by forging the documents and bringing CBS the whole package. He seems like an idiot too, so it wouldn't surprise me that he doesn't know a thing about proportional fonts, or superscript, or the differences between 70's era typewriters and Computer word processing software.
349 posted on 09/10/2004 7:43:46 AM PDT by flaminco
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To: kattracks
First it was Sarin Gas on CNN
Then it was AP falsely reporting boos at a Bush rally
Now it's phony documents on CBS
Is that Roy Orbison sing "It's Over" in the background?
350 posted on 09/10/2004 7:44:14 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Don't be Girly Men About The Economy)
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To: kattracks
Maybe "60 Minutes" should have tried another expert or two.

Judging by Bernie Goldberg's book "Bias," describing the modus operandi of CBS News, I suspect that they consulted dozens of experts until they found one who would say what they wanted.

351 posted on 09/10/2004 7:44:40 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: yall
The collective IQ at FreeRepublic is a very big number.

In fact, the exponent on that number is itself a very big number!

While the exponent on the Collective IQ at DU is a very big number, it is also negative.

CB^)

352 posted on 09/10/2004 7:44:43 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: Howlin

You rock! FR goes mainstream...ok...that would be bad, but you know what I mean!


353 posted on 09/10/2004 7:45:39 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: flaminco
TankerKC's post is gone.

Yeah, I get a 404.

What's with that?

This is from another tab that I had open when I saw your post:

To: Howlin

WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN!

They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed.

Can we get a copy of those memos?

107 posted on 09/08/2004 8:19:00 PM EDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)

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354 posted on 09/10/2004 7:49:43 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: flaminco

Sorry. Clicked 'Reply' too fast.


355 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:01 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: Speartip

Yet many continue to watch and believe the big media.


356 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:28 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Mike Fieschko; P-Marlowe

See #339. Thx P-Marlowe.


357 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:41 AM PDT by flaminco
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To: Psycho_Bunny

in all fairness i think it was a conclusion that immediately entered many people's heads. As some one who lived in Africa for many years Bin Laden was a household name from when the US embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam were bombed in August, 1998...


358 posted on 09/10/2004 8:07:25 AM PDT by propertius
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To: Mike Fieschko
I agree! ...but what if they are?

I am such a cynic, I know.

359 posted on 09/10/2004 8:12:47 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Mad Dawgg; Howlin; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; nicmarlo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; devolve; MEG33; ...
My email letter to John Podhoretz just now:


I just read your article "CBS'S BIG BLUNDER?" and wanted to thank you for writing it.

I am a member of FreeRepublic.com and have been for over 3 years. I appreciate your mentioning our little CyberWorld and home and for helping to expose CBS for the fraud that they are. Thanks !

Keep up the great work.

Sincerely,

[My name]

aka "MeekOneGOP" on FreeRepublic.com


If you would like to email him yourself:

podhoretz@nypost.com


360 posted on 09/10/2004 8:16:03 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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