The second signature looks feminine to me and nowhere close in comparison to the first.
Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
Even the Active Duty military wasn’t much better.
I retired in 1986. In 1982 - 1984 I was Ops Sgt and later 1SG for a company. The Company Clerk had a typewriter, Ops had one and Maintenance had one. No computers. They were located at higher headquarters. Our Battalion was still using typewriters.
hmmmm. You could be right. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, for sure.
The second signature looks feminine to me and nowhere close in comparison to the first.
"Perhaps someone else picked up on this, but in case they didn't, DID THEY HAVE ZIP CODES IN 1972? The letters all have a zip code at the top. I don't remember zip codes that far back."
Yup. ZIP codes were introduced in 1963, made mandatory for bulk mail in 1967, I believe. They were in wide use in 1971.
this is great and all but now that the Orwellian media has done the dammage what can we do to set the record straight against the media czars?
"You should call CNS News. Their experts say the "golf ball" typewriter (the IBM Selectric Composer) was the only one to do this at the time, they cost $20,000, and they weren't widely used.
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Then their experts are not experts. They're incorrect. The IBM Executive was introduced in the 1940's and I guarandamntee you it had proportional fonts.
Thank you for posting that comparison!
Discredit, discredit, discredit! Do an email campaign to show the comparisons. Undermine the validity of those documents. Go in the bathroom and yell! :)
I say forget the typewriter.
The phony signature is the real smoking gun.
You should call CNS News. Their experts say the "golf ball" typewriter (the IBM Selectric Composer) was the only one to do this at the time,Ha ha ha ... once again, we find that not ALL experts are created equal; porportional spacing *was* available as early as 1953, courtesy research by CedarDave and his *earlier* post clearly showing an IBM typewriter with proportional spacing:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1210987/posts?page=485#485
Christmas came early this year! Can't wait to see what comes of this!!!
Regarding Layman's Silver Star letter (which he does not remember writing), note the "justified left and right sides" of the letter. This letter too did not have mono-spaced type. There is no date on the letter...
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/militaryrecords_1.pdf
Problem???
"The IBM Executive was introduced in the 1940's and I guarandamntee you it had proportional fonts."
According to IBM the Executive was introduced in the 1950's and used the traditional hammer style type . Hammer type cannot produce proportional "fonts".
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Please post a word document that I can experiment on. I am having trouble duplicating this.
You are right. It is really going to be fun to watch this play out. I feel a landslide.
Are these docs considered to be the property of the federal gov't? And if so, is it a federal crime to forge and/or tamper with a federal doc?
The second does look feminine, but that makes me think a secretary may have signed it for him. Not sure about military practice in such matters, but for what it's worth, during the several years I worked as a secretary, I frequently signed letters at my boss's request.
According to IBM the Executive was introduced in the 1950's and used the traditional hammer style type . Hammer type cannot produce proportional "fonts".Is the IBM sales literature in error then?
Everyone and I mean everyone was using mostly manual typewriters. The few eary word processors available were not in guard or reserve units.
I forgot to add.....
Proportional printing on the executive came out in 1954 or 55.
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