Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
Every single one of the memos to file regarding Bush's failure to attend a physical and meet other requirements is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing (especially in the military), and typewriters used mono-spaced fonts.Do the experiment for yourself! Look at the memos that CBS cites to:
The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction high-end word processing systems from Xerox and Wang, and later of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's.
Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang and other systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used mono-spaced fonts. I doubt the TANG had typesetting or high-end 1st generation word processing systems.
I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.
BTTT and Ping THE WORLD!!!
A show of hands for anybody thinking that a National Guard military post would have access to a 70's "modern", high-end word processing system?? Anybody?... anybody?
Then why have they ignored the memos I have from other dead people which prove, variously, that John Kerry is really Fidel Castro's younger brother, or that Kerry is actually a Pod Person here to lead the invasion of Earth. Well??
I asked a co-worker about this from another thread I can't fins now. This is what I copied from the other thread:
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The Globe story is itself based on last night's 60 Minutes report: "New questions on Bush Guard duty." The online version of the 60 Minutes story has links to the memos. Killian died in 1984; CBS states that it "consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic." Reader Tom Mortensen writes:
Every single one of the memos to file regarding Bush's failure to attend a physical and meet other requirements is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing (especially in the military), and typewriters used mono-spaced fonts.
The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction high-end word processing systems from Xerox and Wang, and later of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's.
Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang and other systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used mono-spaced fonts. I doubt the TANG had typesetting or high-end 1st generation word processing systems.
I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.
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Below is what my co-worker had to say (he's been a computer programmer for years and years and years (in his 60's now) and is one of the smartest people I've ever met:
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If the photos of those documents are in a proportional font, they are certainly forgeries. Only professional printing had proprotional fonts at that time. It was well into the 80s before proportional fonts came into use and even then few people had them.
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Right off the bat, the use of a superscript in the first memo for "111th" raises a red flag.
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I wonder why CBS would feel the need to do so?
Nice work. Your blog?
If accurate, this is very damning for those who produced the memos. I would consider it criminal fraud.
Do you think the main stream media would bother to report this, even though they are willing to report the reckless speculation that they do?
They are more than happy to spin the tone of the memos, but are no longer willing to pursue the Sandy Berger PantsGate story.
What the hell is wrong with the media in this country? It is very frightening how little they care about truth these days.
bump
The Texas state guard would have been the last place to have modern equipment. I've seen guard units back in the 1980s...which as a active duty-type...it shocked me how badly they were equipped. If they had a typewriter...then they had one and only one...and it would have the squadron orderly room typing anything. And the amount of mistakes would have been easily seen...nothing was ever precisely typed. If this document doesn't have corrections noted on it...I'd be asking questions.
Ping for CBS fraud on behalf of Kerry.
Glad it was posted again, or I would have missed it. This should be posted every 10 minutes in my opinion. The blatant criminal fraud perpetrated by the Rats and their media helpers is completely out of control.
I think we should bring this to the attention of Rush. Does anyone have a link to him? Also to Drudge.
nick
We really need to email bomb folks like Drudge and Fox on this. That will be the fastest way to get it out.
I know Rush reads FR. Here's hoping he mentions it on his show. That could get it to Fox. From there, it might make some of the talking head shows on the cable nets.
bttt
Bingo. Time to change my tag line back to what it was a couple months ago.
No. 2 ________ and convening of a flight review board IAW AFM 35-13.
What is IAW etc and where is the followup?
Having said that, this is very damning. CBS is going to have to take a new look at these memos. I'd like to hear what their document expert has to say about this.
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