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Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
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See post 485. It is an IBM ad. It shows the proportional spacing of the Executive model typewriter.
"Laura Ingraham just announced that Dan Rather is going public about how he is going to work for kerry campaign par time. "
Let me guess --- for 22 minutes each night.
Very good. That's a very old one, but it does have the proportional spacing. It was an amazing machine for its time. I couldn't find that ad anywhere. Congratulations!
"Oh yes they have. And it can."Heh. Thanks for clearing that up, these weren't the droids we were looking for after all!
Bush's records were released, not these memos.
These were supposedly Killian's personal files.
The Pentagon would not have someone's personal files.
Hence being called 'personal'.
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Yes, you are probably right. Thanks.
Re: your observation on the disappearing/reappearing platen flaws on the copied memos.
Exactly so. Copiers can be as distinctive as fingerprints....which is why, imho, it's been copied multiple times, in an effort to muddy the fingerprints of whomever's hands they've passed through.
I tend to think the copier trash marks we're seeing on CBS's PDF images are of recent origin.
First, if Killian wrote these memos just for his own use, and not for anyone's file, he wouldn't have made copies at all. There'd be just the original.
Second, the toner used in copiers thirty years ago faded and became unreadable relatively quickly. The print would be long gone after 30 years.
I learned to set type on an old Varitype. Geest, those things were tough to use. No way anybody but a typesetter would use one, that's all they were good for.
Tell him to take a look at the curly apostrophes.
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You are welcome. Yes, something seems very rotten indeed.
Actually the IBM Selectric typwiters, had changable fonts by the use of a ball shaped print head. Their history page shows thet were introduced in 1961, But my failing memory says I saw one of those when I was in High School (52-56)
There is no mention of the names of the fonts available but maybe proportional fonts were available on those Ball shaped print heads.
Drudge has it as developing ....
That test seems to me to be pretty much fool-proof. Another test is to type out this letter using Courier or some other typewriter-imitating font which uses monospacing. The difference is obvious.
To me it looks like they just ran photocopied it and or ran it through the FAX machine a couple of times. It definately appears to have been FAX'd at least once, because of some of the artifacts.
I certainly don't know anything about the typewriters available at the time these memos were allegedly typed up. However, when I was in the 'Corps all I remember seeing were old manual Underwoods. All documents that I have are in Courier font.
My father was a Naval officer and I have his entire record here in my home. From 1943 to 1976, all of his documents are also in Courier.
Was the Air Guard so greatly funded that they had IBM's?? I remember that the Selectric and the Executive were very expensive.
There must be some retired military office pinkies here at Free Republic that might be able to cast some light on just what typewriters were being used by our military at the time these documents were supposed to have been produced.
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It's just like during Desert Storm when Saddam had those signs and uniforms, printed in English, placed amid the rubble saying "Baby Milk Factory" to garner the sympathy and whines of the bleeding heart types.
Justification would mean that the right side lined up, just as the left side lines up. They don't.
Justification would be a complete dead giveaway. The problems are more subtle.
1. Proportional spaced fonts were rare in 1972.
2. Superscripted "th" very rare.
3. I don't recall ever seeing a curly apostrophe from a typewriter.
4. The baselines of the letters line up very smoothly.
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