Posted on 09/09/2004 6:42:06 AM PDT by Sue Bob
The Globe story is itself based on last night's 60 Minutes report: "New questions on Bush Guard duty." The online version of the 60 Minutes story has links to the memos. Killian died in 1984; CBS states that it "consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic." Reader Tom Mortensen writes:
Every single one of the memos to file regarding Bush's failure to attend a physical and meet other requirements is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing (especially in the military), and typewriters used mono-spaced fonts.
The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction high-end word processing systems from Xerox and Wang, and later of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's.
Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang and other systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used mono-spaced fonts. I doubt the TANG had typesetting or high-end 1st generation word processing systems.
I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.
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Sorry bud, but it CAN be proved that a document is a forgery based on fonts and equipment available at the time, just as some forgers use pens or ink that were not available at the time a forgery is supposed to have been written.
It is very apparent that Bush wanted to fulfill the duties of both his country and father.
Then there must be a personal file on KERRY!! Where is it?
Just yesterday I was talking to a former military man and we were laughing about the typing on military DD214s and those FBI reports. If this is true then I'd be a little suspicious.
CBS and Dan Rather already have a credibility factor lower than a Bow-Flex infomercial so they can't go much lower even if they do admit stupidity to accompany their bias.
I was using an IBM "proportional type" typewriter in an office in the '70's. I published newsletters and training material.
Exactly, that is how "The Hitler Diaries" were found to be a hoax.
Hell no.
What will be your response when the Navy finally releases skerry's dishonorable discharge from the 70's. I guess Bush's suppossed bad performance report trumps that right?
What? Are you saying that chick's not 50 and I've been working my butt off for nothing?
Info ping!
The problem I see here is that few commander's ever used typewriters. In the mid-70s when I joined...there wasn't a single officer in the squadron who could type. This was all left to the enlisted guys to do, or else the officer had his wife type up the document at the house.
That's Forgery 101 right there.
I find that the phrase "proportional spacing" is used only with the wheel typewriters that came out AFTER the Selectric I and II. Later Selectric models had "selective spacing" - it looks more and more as if this could be blown open.
Were you in the Tx national Guard?
I was in the PA NG in this time period, we had manual typewriters, and the few electrics available at battalion were not proportional. There is no way these were typed by Killian. I too was involved in typesetting in the early 80s and even those systems, Selectric's and Linotronics would have required a vastly greater skill set than Killian would have possessed to produce documents like these.
Where were they? Well, if those of us who think these are forgeries are correct, I guess they were still sparks in the minds of the Clintonian hit teams that Kerry seems to have hired.
Good point. The issue is KILLIAN here. - The statement last night that the whole segment was based upon the iffy assertion of their "expert" (who himself wouldn't commit for fear of being sued for his britches later) and the testimony of a big Democrat Kerry donor makes it ABSOLUTE POPPYCOCK! I hope they paid the "expert" analyst really well; he may need it if his loose assertion is proven false and slanderous later on. Someone should remind him.
Thanks for confirming what I suspected in response to another similar post. To wit...
1960s Manual and electric front strike typewriters remained the office standard until the IBM Selectric with its golf-ball type-element was introduced in 1961. The Selectric's carriage was stationary while the type-element moved back and forth across the page. As was true of earlier single-element typewriters, the type-element on the Selectric could be changed to permit writing in different fonts and languages.
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