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How to Say 'Fast Food' in Polish
Deutsche Welle ^ | 07.09.2004

Posted on 09/07/2004 10:44:18 AM PDT by lizol

How to Say 'Fast Food' in Polish

Though they've become less prosperous since the fall of the Iron Curtain, many in Poland would rather have a cheap healthy meal at a local milk bar than a Big Mac.

Today when Polish got out to eat they can be overwhelmed by a blitz of possibilities ranging from Michelin-starred restaurants to Chinese take-aways to Western fast food chains. But this culinary diversity is something that only emerged after the Iron Curtain fell in 1989.

Before that, when Poles didn't feel like slaving behind the stove, they didn't hop in the car and head for the nearest golden arches -- instead they hopped on over to their local government-subsidized milk bars (Bar Mleczny) for a quick repast and a night on the town.

McState subsidized

Subsidized by the government, the milk bars served as an important social outlet under Poland's communist government. The socialist idea behind the bars was to provide each worker and citizen with the possibility of an affordable warm meal. People from all walks of life frequented the milk bars -- and many still do.

And though the name may evoke images of bovine creations, the milk bars didn't just sell milk or ice cream. You could also get a balanced, square meal. But the meals did tend to rely heavily on dairy products for their inspiration.

During the peak of Communism, self-service restaurants like milk bars could be found throughout the Eastern Bloc. In the former East Germany, for example, they could be found in most cities. But today they have vanished from most countries except Poland.

Competition for the burger industry

With the onslaught of Western fast food and diminishing government subsidies, Poland's tradition of milk bars has struggled in recent years, with many going out of business. But in the country's metropolises, like Warsaw or Gdansk, milk bars are still trendy hangouts. And though they now have to compete with fast food and kebab stands, the Polish government wants to keep them in business and backs them to the tune of several million euros in subsidies each year.

With their low prices, the milk bars are attracting a growing number of students and pensioners. With meals costing as little as €1 to €4, the prices are attractive.

Still, the hunt for a bargain isn't the only thing that draws people to the milk bars. Patrick Szymanski, a 23-year-old student, eats in a milk bar every day and he loves Warsaw's milk bars, because he doesn't have to do any cooking or clean-up.

"In former times there were as many milk bars as there are coffee shops now. But now there are almost only kebab shops and Asian takeaways," recalled a guy named Janusz, a 66-year-old Warsaw native who was eating lunch with his friend Bogdan at Bar Studencki, a traditional milk bar at the University of Warsaw. Janusz said he'd rather dig into a milk bar's traditional fare of soup and potato-filled piroshkis than go to a fast food chain.

"It tastes almost as good as my wife's cooking," asserts the 59-year-old Bodgan.

"I like the Polish kitchen. Unlike fast food, it's actually healthy," said a friend of Bodgan's.

A cult following

For many Polish youngsters, who have long forgotten the days of long queing lines and food rations under Communism, milk bars have gained cult status. For some old enough to remember Communism, it's one of the friendlier reminders of Poland's socialist past.

But others, like Janusz and Bogdan have a simpler reason for hanging out at the milk bars.

"Where can you eat so well and be finished in 15 minutes?" they asked.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fastfood; food; kielbasa; poland; polish
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1 posted on 09/07/2004 10:44:18 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Maybe I'm sheltered, but the only other time I've heard of a "milk bar" was in "A Clockwork Orange". Alex and his droogs used to hang out at the Koroba Milk Bar, or some such fine establishment.


2 posted on 09/07/2004 10:47:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I have two words for John Kerry: "YYYEEEEAAARRGGGHHHH!!!!")
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To: ClearCase_guy
Not milk, moloko.
3 posted on 09/07/2004 10:49:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ClearCase_guy

I liked the Moloko Plus myself...


4 posted on 09/07/2004 10:49:26 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: ClearCase_guy

That is the first thing that popped into my mind too. lol


5 posted on 09/07/2004 10:52:17 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: ClearCase_guy; All

The "milk bar" is just a name. In fact you can get all kind of lunch or breakfast there.

I wonder myself why the name is like that, even though I'm Polish, I live here and I've been to "milk bars" several times.


6 posted on 09/07/2004 10:53:04 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
"...traditional fare of soup and potato-filled piroshkis..."

Yummy.

7 posted on 09/07/2004 10:54:28 AM PDT by Petronski (With what? Spitballs!?!)
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To: SAMWolf; Matthew Paul

Mc Ping


8 posted on 09/07/2004 10:55:02 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (I'm a TreadHead, she's a TreadHead, wouldn't you like to be a TreadHead too?)
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To: lizol

>>How to Say 'Fast Food' in Polish

Perogies! MMmmmmMMmmmmmm!


9 posted on 09/07/2004 10:56:52 AM PDT by MarineBrat
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To: ClearCase_guy

Anthony Burgess' "Clockwork Orange" satirized a lot of Communist totalitarian ideas. The droogs spoke Nadsat--a satirical language melding Russian, English and slang. I think the milk bars were an appropriate setting.


10 posted on 09/07/2004 11:00:38 AM PDT by Pinetop
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To: MarineBrat

"MMmmmmMMmmmmmm!" indeed!


11 posted on 09/07/2004 11:04:45 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

So polish girls eat healthy? This must be why they're so beautiful.


12 posted on 09/07/2004 11:07:53 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (Emma Caulfield.....yum)
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To: lizol

We used to have milk bars in the US--they were called cafeterias. You could take your child there and feed him a low-cost and fairly nourishing meal without tons of fat and sugar. Where have all the Luby's gone?


13 posted on 09/07/2004 11:08:47 AM PDT by giotto
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To: lizol

I remember eating at the Prague Automat one night in the early 1990s, and it was packed. The hockey player Petr Klima was there entertaining anyone who would listen, and he bought us a round of beers.


14 posted on 09/07/2004 11:11:40 AM PDT by untenured
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To: MarineBrat

Pierogies

2 cups flour
3 egs
knead into dough, adding flour or egg as necessary

roll into 6" circles

Filling:
add saurkraut and musrooms
-OR-
add mix of farmers cheese, onions, one boiled potato, a little salt

Cooking:
fold in half, seal edges with as little air inside as possible
boil for 10 minutes.

store in freezer wrapped in wax paper

To server fry with butter and salt to taste.


15 posted on 09/07/2004 11:12:00 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: lizol

"Though they've become less prosperous since the fall of the Iron Curtain"

Well, there's the first lie right there. At least they didn't make us wade through much of the story before they got down to it. Crowd booed Clinton bump.


16 posted on 09/07/2004 11:12:19 AM PDT by speedy
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To: giotto
Where have all the Luby's gone?

My wife and I eat lunch there every other week on payday. They have turned into an all-you-can-eat-in-one-trip kinda place, you no longer pay per item (except dessert and drink). Good stuff.

17 posted on 09/07/2004 11:13:22 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: giotto

I remember once, when I was in the US I was taken to some place like you've described. A friend of mine told he'd show me some traditional old- fashioned American "fast-food" bar - in opposition to McDonald's, that look everywere the same.

We went there very early in the morning (about 5 a.m.) and the place looked just like I could see on American movies from 50's-60's - a long bar table with several bar chairs, and a few sleepy guys drinking their morning coffee.

Nice place. I thik that was "a cafeteria", that you've mentioned.


18 posted on 09/07/2004 11:18:42 AM PDT by lizol
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To: giotto
....Where have all the Luby's gone?

Bad management for one thing.
Luby's used to be considered one of the top 100 stocks to own.
Now they are down to something like $5.00-$6.00 per share.

I fear it won't be long before Luby's is a thing of the past.

19 posted on 09/07/2004 11:20:17 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: lizol

Without the subsidies, the Kebab places would eat their lunch (no pun intended!).


20 posted on 09/07/2004 11:35:14 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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