Posted on 09/03/2004 7:15:01 AM PDT by Bob Hyneman
Cheney’s “five deferments.”
[b][color=orange]In the summer of 1967 D ick Cheney was a married 26 year old man with a daughter.[/color] [/b] Twenty-six year old men cannot be drafted but (gasp) he was married and had a daughter BEFORE he turned 26 and that means he had two deferments!!!
[b](Everyone who had a daughter in 1966 was draft dodger right?).[/b]
Anyway, a half-truth is as good as a truth to John Kerry, so all you need to know is the two deferments part right?
Except, that many many years before the draft, D ick Cheney had also - attended Community College - and then University. Since any slick lawyer-type can tell you transferring schools can legally be counted as two deferments, that brings the total to four. (Never mind that he acquired both of these [b][u]years[/u][/b] before Vietnam was a war, or had draft, or could even be found on the amp by most Americans).
So what is number 5? Well in 1965 the US sent its first contingent of 3,500 Marines to Vietnam. (The draft would begin in earnest in 1966-67), Only a few years earlier in 1964-65, that damn D ick Cheney began applying for graduate schools and grad school acceptance counts as another. (This time Mr. Kerry DID successfully count to five).
So, if you believe John Kerry’s version of events, D ick Cheney began dodging the Vietnam draft five (or six) years before troops were being drafted and sent there. (Look this is politics and ad hominem attacks are allowed but if that is the best you got then you ain't got ad hominems)
[b]The fact is that D ick Cheney: - was accepted to community college - was accepted to the U of Wyoming - was accepted to graduate school - was married - was an expectant father all MORE THAN A YEAR before the draft began.[/b]
I note here that Cheney was married and an expectant father both during grad school and after Kerry COULD count that as SEVEN deferments, (but that would imply the ability to count to seven).
I suppose a 26 year-old daddy with a graduate degree and a newborn daughter COULD have volunteered to go to Vietnam, but I don’t think it is altogether honest to portray him as a draft dodger, do you?
At this point, John Kerry would say: "How dare you question my patriotism!?"
I saw it reported recently that Kerry actually first tried to get a deferment or out the draft altogether but failed. His next plan was to go for as short a time as possible - successfully achieved in 4 months.
I will google around and try to find that report. If anyone knows the facts please post them.
--aragona
Has anyone yet figured out where John Edwards spent the Vietnam war years?
No- despite the baby face, he was NOT in grammar school.
Do anything beside lies come out of sKerry's mouth?
Obviously not a math major.
Of course, John Edwards was 18 years old in 1971 and unmarried - the exact profile of the type of guy the Army was looking for - but it was OK for him to get a college deferment. Little Johnny didn't volunteer, but it was A-OK.
John Edwards is the same age as my husband, give or take a month, both were born in 1953. From what my husband told me, no one born in 53 was drafted.
My husband enlisted, Edwards didn't.
Is that what they mean by 6 deferments (or 5..or whatever?)
That's immoral.
I thought it meant he'd received a draft notice 5 or 6 times and come up a valid excuse each time. I was prepared to bite my tongue and accept that.
BUT...
This means he didn't have any deferments.
Does anyone know if he EVER received a draft notice?
Edwards attended "North Carolina State University where he graduated with high honors in 1974 and then earned a law degree with honors in 1977 from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill."
Source:
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/john_edwards.asp
This has to be the funniest thing I've recently heard. Even the willing media is using this to make carey look better....what a riot.
In the United States, military conscription, or the draft, had been in place virtually without interruption since the end of World War II, but volunteers generally predominated in combat units. When the first U.S. combat troops arrived in Vietnam in 1965 they were composed mainly of volunteers.
The Air Force, Navy, and Marines were volunteer units. The escalating war, however, required more draftees. In 1965 about 20,000 men per month were inducted into the military, most into the Army; by 1968 about 40,000 young men were drafted each month to meet increased troop levels ordered for Vietnam.
The conscript army was largely composed of teenagers; the average age of a U.S. soldier in Vietnam was 19, younger than in World War II (ave. age WWII - 26) or the Korean War. For the first time in U.S. military history, tours of duty were fixed in length, usually for a period of 12 or 13 months, and an individual’s date of estimated return from overseas (DEROS) was therefore set at the same time as the assignment date.
The LIBERALLY BIASED Media is LOSING more readers daily. Soon they will be HISTORY like the Kerry campaign.
I HATE this crap from a man who would be President.
BumP
And let's clear up this misstatement about Kerry volunteering to go to Vietnam. As I understand it, he volunteered for the Navy. He got sent to Vietnam. Bush volunteered for the National Guard, and could very well have been sent to Vietnam. Lots of National Guard were sent to Vietnam. It was NO guarantee of avoiding the war.
Not like he ran off to Oxford, or anything......
AND, he chose the Navy because he wanted to fight the fierce North Vietnam Navy, RIGHT? LOL..........
Spin it anyway you want. Cheney stayed home while fifty thousand Americans died in a war he supported.
Mitch McConnell on Fox and Friends this morning:
"Why are they continuing to focus on 35 years ago?" (paraphrasing)
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