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A call for civility on Free Republic
Vanity | 08/31/04 | ChicagoHebrew

Posted on 08/30/2004 10:05:23 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew

I enjoy this forum, but lately I've noticed a troubling tendency for posters here to descend into horrible and immature name-calling. Such name-calling, and extremism without reason does nothing but harm our cause. It turns off casual lurkers and readers of this forum. It provides fodder for this forum to be demonized and non-respected elsewhere. Below I provide a few examples. I call on Freepers to stop using such terms voluntarily. If that doesn't work, I call on the moderators to warn, if not censor, posters who use such terms. I realize that Democratic Underground uses even more ridiculous terms sometimes. However, your opponents' choice to frolack in waste does not provide an excuse to do likewise. Rather, it provides an opportunity to rise above, and show one's intellectual and moral superiority. Without more, I present a few examples of the type of garbage I'm talking about. I call on fellow posters to add their own.

1) "Hitlery" -- I dislike Hillary Clinton's politics, and what I know of her personality. However, nothing she has said or done (including her love-fest with Suha Arafat) justifies comparing her to one of the worst monsters in all history. Doing so not only demeans the Holocaust, and all the war dead of WWII, it makes a mockery of this forum to allow it to be posted.

2) "Demorat" -- This is just stupid. Calling your opponent a rodent does nothing to promote conservatism or libertarianism. It does everything to make posters and this forum look like intellectual infants, prone to tantrums and incapable of rational debate. We disagree with Democrats. We should not dehumanize them, or think them so below us that we need not engage them in debate and triumph.

3) "McInsane" & etc. -- John McCain is a conservative, loyal Republican. Indeed, in some areas -- such as controlling spending -- he's far more conservative then Bush. However, he is also a mavarick who doesn't tow the party line -- and, in my opinion, sometimes perhaps puts his principles below his desire to win applauds from the media. That being said, his ACU rating is strong, and he has put legitimate personal disagreements with Bush behind him to support what's best for his party -- and, more importantly -- his country. Feel free to critique McCain. Feel free to disagree with him when he criticizes fellow Republicans or takes an odd liberal stand. However, do not resort to petty name-calling -- especially not name calling that implies he lacks mental faculties, and/or is evil. It's just not right.

So I have written. I hope that a silent majority of Freepers agree with me here.


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To: ChicagoHebrew

Is it okay to discuss "Old Crusty"?


21 posted on 08/30/2004 10:12:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Lieutenant Ricebottom reporting for duty.")
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To: submarinerswife

>How's "Hildebeast"? Is that sensitive enough for ya?<

Good point....

Personally, I prefer "the most dangerous person on the planet" or "bitch".

Last time I checked, the name of this forum was FREE Republic?!?! Right?


22 posted on 08/30/2004 10:12:55 PM PDT by highnoon (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
I guess you would not like my tagline then ...
23 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:11 PM PDT by GeorgiaFreeper (Hitlery does not have fat ankles. That's where the hooves show through above the foot prosthetics.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

McCain is the "Manchurian Candidate" for a reason!

But I will agree about the uses of infantile grade school level name-calling.

"Mean spirited" is the stupidest! (most stupid?)


24 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:15 PM PDT by steplock
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Its not Demorat its DEMONrat.


25 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:17 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Jeff Chandler

Jinx u owe me a beer


26 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:22 PM PDT by max_rpf
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To: thoughtomator
Hillary doesn't yet have the power to enact her will, and if we remind people of what has happened in the past we can help to avert it happening again in the future.

Are you for real?!?! She was "two for one" from '92-2000 and she is in the senate, soon to sink her shit hooks into the presidential run in '08. If you don't recognize what is going on then you need to get off the crack.
27 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:23 PM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: ChicagoHebrew

I was hoping this post was calling for civility among ourselves, but alas, you want us to tone down our criticism of the other side? Please. They are not just of another tame political party, they are the enemies of our constitution and our security.

I would cheer a post about Freepers not attacking each other and to unite in our effort to defeat the real enemy, the leftist, Marxist democrats.


28 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

I use Hitlery at times but prefer Broom Jockey. lol


29 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:28 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: ChicagoHebrew

This is quite civil. You should have been here in 1999-2000.


30 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:29 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Danette
You're still a newbie, huh?

Nope.

Been on this site several weeks. But calling me a newbie is like calling someone who bought a new computer a "newbie" because they have not had THAT particular computer a long time. It's silly.

If Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter posted here, would you guys call them newbies? Nope, because the content of their posts would set them apart from those who don't know how to use the system.

I do.

31 posted on 08/30/2004 10:13:52 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: ChicagoHebrew

They are nicer on Krusgnet.


32 posted on 08/30/2004 10:14:05 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: ChicagoHebrew

She endorses abortion on demand.


33 posted on 08/30/2004 10:14:07 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

These words/names are in the Freeper Dictionary. Look it up.


34 posted on 08/30/2004 10:14:19 PM PDT by Danette (The 9-11 Commission is America's newest terrorist cell. Vote Bush 2004.)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf; ChicagoHebrew

> name-calling

I agree, but there is a "Report Abuse" link on every post.
Use it if you are really offended.

(Or just send the poster a private msg asking
if they're a DU troll. :-)

> Hitlary is fun to use.

Boortz does that too, and it really undercuts his
complaining about people who compare Bush to Hitler.


35 posted on 08/30/2004 10:14:29 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: ChicagoHebrew
It is true that there are more civilized ways to critique someone than to call names.

I got a real lesson in that when following a link to DU from a FR thread recently. Talk about potty-mouths!

Or as Guiliani said tonight when relating that he couldn't repeat what the New York construction workers were telling W after 9/11 what he should do to the terrorists: "Since this is the REPUBLICAN convention, I can't repeat what they told him he should do to the terrorists!"

That said, McCain is bad news. It's really sweet that he's decided to bring his toys to the campaign and play nice for a few weeks, but for those of us who used to think (from afar) that McCain was really something back in the 1980's but who have since seen his true colors, he will have a national ticket future in the Republican party only over our strongest efforts.

36 posted on 08/30/2004 10:14:53 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: thoughtomator
Bravo your post about Hillary. She is underestimated at our own peril. I suggest people start reading up on this woman and her past mentors etc.
37 posted on 08/30/2004 10:15:12 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
It lightens the mood of, sometimes too intense, discussions and even seems to bring FReepers together. Makes the forum fun. For me, still being somewhat of a "newbie", I am much more comfortable joining a thread that is a little more light hearted by making fun of the "enemy", then by an intense thread in which the people are attacking each other. IMO
38 posted on 08/30/2004 10:15:44 PM PDT by codyjacksmom
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To: asgardshill
This wasn't intended as a tolerance lecture. It was intended as a lecture on improving the forum to better promote its goals. Stopping the name-calling doesn't mean moving leftward. It means moving upward.

My profile sig was intended as a joke, a play on the old Reagan episode. Perhaps, in all honesty, I should change it -- as it might give the wrong impression out. At least I don't quote that sig on 1000s of posts a day.

39 posted on 08/30/2004 10:16:11 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: ChicagoHebrew

I don't care much for "Hitlary" myself (the name or the person), Hildabeast is much more creative and descriptive.

As for 'rats, Demon-rats, and the like, I think these are reasonable usages. Given the word's connotations (furtive, parasitic, disease-ridden, work in packs), it perfectly summarizes our perceptions of the 'rat party. Nor is it simple name-calling, since the relevance of these connotations is routinely supported by the facts and anecdotes cited here.


40 posted on 08/30/2004 10:16:19 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Anti-war Movement: Roadkill on the Highway to Freedom)
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