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More Questions About Kerry Vietnam Service
netWMD - The War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | August 26, 2004 | Andrew L. Jaffee

Posted on 08/26/2004 7:02:17 AM PDT by stevejackson

As Democratic hopeful John Kerry whines about the Swift Boat Veterans questioning his Vietnam “war service,” more revelations have surfaced which challenge the legitimacy of his first Purple Heart. The Senator claims that that medal was received because of enemy fire he took, but his own personal diary contradicts that assertion. While the Senator’s supporters tried unsuccessfully to portray President Bush as being “AWOL” during the Vietnam War, they won’t address the fact that Kerry tried to defer his military service at that time for 12 months. And what would Kerry and his friends say about the fact that his campaign has spent $149 million on advertising compared with the $81 million spent by Bush et al? It just doesn’t ad up.

According to yesterday’s Washington Times,

A primary claim against Mr. Kerry by the Swift Boat Veterans is that Mr. Kerry's first Purple Heart — awarded for action on Dec. 2, 1968 — did not involve the enemy and that Mr. Kerry's wounds that day were unintentionally self-inflicted.

They charge that in the confusion involving unarmed, fleeing Viet Cong, Mr. Kerry fired a grenade, which detonated nearby and splattered his arm with hot metal.

Mr. Kerry has claimed that he faced his "first intense combat" that day, returned fire, and received his "first combat related injury."

A journal entry Mr. Kerry wrote Dec. 11, however, raises questions about what really happened nine days earlier.

"A cocky feeling of invincibility accompanied us up the Long Tau shipping channel because we hadn't been shot at yet, and Americans at war who haven't been shot at are allowed to be cocky," wrote Mr. Kerry, according the book "Tour of Duty" by friendly biographer Douglas Brinkley.

If enemy fire was not involved in that or any other incident, according to the Military Order of the Purple Heart, no medal should be awarded.

But even before this event in Vietnam, Kerry was trying to avoid war service. From Britain’s Telegraph,

Senator John Kerry, the presumed Democratic presidential candidate who is trading on his Vietnam war record to campaign against President George W Bush, tried to defer his military service for a year, according to a newly rediscovered article in a Harvard University newspaper.

He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a further 12 months studying in Paris, after completing his degree course at Yale University in the mid-1960s.

The revelation appears to undercut Sen Kerry's carefully-cultivated image as a man who willingly served his country in a dangerous war - in supposed contrast to President Bush, who served in the Texas National Guard and thus avoided being sent to Vietnam.

Have people forgotten that it was Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman Terry McAuliffe who started this war service argument? According to the Washington Times,

Mr. McAuliffe leveled his AWOL charge against Mr. Bush on the Feb. 1 broadcast of ABC's "This Week" when he said he looked forward to a debate between Mr. Kerry, "a war hero with a chest full of medals," and Mr. Bush, "a man who was AWOL in the Alabama National Guard."

"George Bush never served in our military and our country," Mr. McAuliffe said.

These are pretty strong words from the top Democratic official in the U.S., despite the fact that,

The White House released 400 pages of documents Friday from Mr. Bush's time in the Air National Guard that show he reported for duty in Alabama. Two men who served with Mr. Bush at the time also have vouched for him.

And finally, let’s talk about all the money being spent on election advertising. According to the Chicago Tribune,

Groups backing Sen. John Kerry spent more than twice as much on advertising as did President Bush's campaign during the week following the Democratic National Convention, continuing an advantage held much of the spring and summer. …

In the week after the convention in Boston, which ended July 29, the Democratic National Committee and the Media Fund, a Democratic advocacy group, spent a combined $11.1 million on pro-Kerry and anti-Bush ads in 21 states. …

Bush's campaign spent an estimated $4.4 million from Aug. 1 through Aug. 7 and received almost no advertising help from outside groups. …

Since early March, an estimated $149 million has been spent on advertising by Kerry and groups backing him, compared with about $81 million for Bush.

Poor, impoverished Democrats. They’re outspending the “fat cat” Republicans. By opening the “war record” can of worms, they’re doing a good job of endangering Kerry’s chances of being the next U.S. president. After all, the hoo-ha about Bush’s Vietnam record was laid to rest, but the story about Kerry’s 4 ½-month “military service” is just starting to unravel.


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1 posted on 08/26/2004 7:02:18 AM PDT by stevejackson
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To: stevejackson

"unintentionally self-inflicted."

So, it the Wash Times agreeing with some young girl named Michelle Malkin or something by saying Kerry shot himself?

</Chrissy Mathews sarcasm off>


2 posted on 08/26/2004 7:04:32 AM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: stevejackson
He did suffer intense fire. Some idiot threw gas on their campfire when they are having a weenie roast.
3 posted on 08/26/2004 7:07:43 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum

The FBI files reveal:

1. VVAW Plan to assassinate seven US senators.

2. VVAW was training to execute a Phoenix plan to decapitate the leaders of the US Government.

3. Member of VVAW arrested enroute to VP Agnew speech with an explosive device (BOMB).

4. VVAW running guns to a black militant group in Cairo IL.

5. VVAW funded by Communist party of America.

6. VVAW receiving funds from the Communist Party of a country in Europe.

7. VVAW taking directions from the North Vietnamese Communist Government.

8. VVAW sent tapes to NV to be played to our POW's being held by the communists.

9. VVAW sent its leaders (Kerry was a leader) to NV to be indoctrinated by the NV Communists.

10. FBI files indicate that Kerry only resigned the exeutive committee of the VVAW.

And I found this article which proves he was still with the VVAW as a leader as late as Feb. 1972.

And finally this.

Recently I have read that John Kerry has told the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that he was not referring to them in his senate speech in 1971, but to all the other Vietnam War veterans.

Well, we should apply the same standard to this that Kerry and his news pals used, that is;

That he did not serve in their tent, unit, team, foxhole, aircraft, patrol unit, or squad so therefore he cannot know what these men were doing or not doing.

Therefore, because by his own admission that by these rules above the SBVT couldnot have known, he should admit that everything he stated about Vietnam War veterans is a lie, as he had no first hand knowledge.

He did not serve with them!

And most will say they are glad that he didn't!


4 posted on 08/26/2004 7:08:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum

I like the story wherein Kerry chose the Navy....Grunts faced bad news, pilots faced anti-aircraft fire....On a ship facing the large North Vietnamese navy was his choice.....All makes sense to me......


5 posted on 08/26/2004 7:09:18 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: Piquaboy


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6 posted on 08/26/2004 7:25:53 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: Piquaboy
He did suffer intense fire. Some idiot threw gas on their campfire when they are having a weenie roast.

Actually this exact thing happened to a co-worker of mine when he was in Nam. He spent some time at Ft Sam Houston for his burn treatment. He laughs now and says he didn't put himself in for a purple heart.
7 posted on 08/26/2004 7:33:27 AM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: Proverbs 3-5

Thanks to Kerry, he can now put in for one.


8 posted on 08/26/2004 7:37:26 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: stevejackson

I wanted to volunteer to serve before I didn’t get my deferment.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 8:25:06 AM PDT by f zero
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To: stevejackson

bump TO SUPPORT THE NEW SWIFT VETS AD AND GEORGE BUSH... http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg


10 posted on 08/27/2004 8:28:56 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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