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Timeline : The end of Kerry's tour in Vietnam
Unfit For Command, The Washington Post 8/22/2004 | 8/24/2004 | zot

Posted on 08/24/2004 1:03:57 PM PDT by zot

I've been putting together a timeline of the end of Kerry's short tour in Vietnam, and I think the sequence highlights two events that have not been focused upon together and should be emphasized: (a) Kerry abandoned the other boats and fled from what he thought was a battle, and (b) he abandoned his own boat and rode home with the wounded.

13 Mar 1969 - Five Swift Boats are sent to raid a Vietcong village: Kerry PCF-94, Droz PCF-43, Pees PCF-3, Chenoweth PCF-23, and Thurlow PCF-51. Special Forces Lieutenant Rassman goes along for the ride on Kerry's boat. They depart the LST anchored offshore at 7:30 am, cruise about 11 miles up the Bay Hap River, then about 3 miles up the Dong Cung Canal, and get to the village at 8:15 am.

1. The village is deserted. As they are returning to the boat, Kerry and Rassmann decide to blow up a five-ton rice bin. They climb on top of the huge pile and dig a hole in the rice. On the count of three, they toss their grenades into the hole and run. Kerry doesn't run fast enough. He gets hit in the butt by some pieces of rice.

2. As the five boats are returning down the Bay Hap River, they come to a fishing net stretched across the middle of the river. As PCF-94 is going around the fishing net to the right and PCF-3 is going around it to the left, a mine explodes under PCF-3.

3. Simultaneously: (a) Kerry goes to full throttle, which causes Rassmann to fall overboard, and flees down the river with all his guns firing at the shore, and (b) the other three boats go to help PCF-3 with all their guns firing at the shore.

4. After 40 seconds, PCF-43, PCF-23 and PCF-51 cease fire, but Kerry keeps on firing and fleeing down the river.

5. PCF-43, PCF-23 and PCF-51 work together to rescue the crew of PCF-3 and keep PCF-3 from sinking.

6. Kerry finally turns around, comes back, and fishes Rassmann out of the water.

7. As PCF 23 is leaving the area to take the three seriously injured men from PCF-3 to the Coast Guard cutter offshore, Kerry jumps in PCF-23 and goes with them.

8. PCF-94 (without Kerry) tows the badly damaged PCF-3.

9. Kerry writes the after-action report that portrays him as a hero. He does not mention the fact that he abandoned the other boats and fled from what he thought was a battle, or that he abandoned his own boat and rode home with the wounded.

13-17 March 1969

1. Kerry's after-action report is used to request that he be awarded the Bronze Star and his third Purple Heart.

2. Several Swift Boat commanders discuss the problems they have been having with Kerry. The fact that he bugged out twice on the same day is the last straw. One of them remembers the regulation about three Purple Hearts.

3. Tom Wright, another Swift Boat commander at An Thoi, approaches Kerry one night and tells him that several fellow Swiftees believe it might be best for everyone if Kerry simply left.

4. Kerry goes to see CDR Charles F. Horne, Commander of Coastal Squadron One, and requests reassignment to the United States. (Kerry apparently told CDR Horne precisely the type of assignment he wanted. See next entry.)

17 March 1969 - CDR Horne signs a telegram dated 17 March 1969 that says Kerry "has been thrice wounded in action while on duty incountry Vietnam. Reassignment is requested ... as a personal aide in Boston, New York, or Wash., D.C. area."

11 Apr 1969 - Kerry reports for duty at Headquarters Military Sea Transportation Service, U.S. Atlantic Fleet, in Brooklyn, New York, as a personal aide to Admiral Walter F. Schlech.


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KEYWORDS: bush2004; firefight; fled; kerry; pcf94; sbv; swiftboats; swiftboatvets; unfitforcommand; vietnam
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
68-69 your a brave soul if you went out on the deck to take the picture when they were firing those 5 inchers. I went out on the open bridge when they fired #2 once, and it blew my ear phones off my head. I never did that again.
81 posted on 08/24/2004 3:35:32 PM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: chainsaw

I used to be IN the gun mount, sometimes as Mount Captain.

That required me to stick my head thru the top hatch as the guns fired.

When they did my head (with helmet) would slam back into the hatch cover.


82 posted on 08/24/2004 3:44:21 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: euclid216
Did any of the other four officers write an after action report? If yes, are they available? If not, why not?

From what I've read, it was common practice for only one of the skippers to write up the after-action report of multi-unit incidents.

As has always been the case in all branches of the service, honor and honesty on the part of the person submitting a report is expected. In kerry's case, that expectation wasn't met.

Any officer requesting to review a report written by a fellow officer would be viewed as questioning that fellow officer's integrity. In most cases, that review shouldn't have needed to happen; in kerry's case, it should have happened.

83 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:03 PM PDT by Bob
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To: RS

Trying to read through all of the code boggles my mind. The damage report, last page, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it dated 3/12?


84 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:31 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: mohresearcher
Not answered (as least I couldn't determine from reading Dobbs'August 22, 2004 Washington Post article entitled "Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete": were any of the friendly casualties due to bullet wounds? Please advise if anyone can answer this question.

Except for kerry, the only wounded appear to have been aboard PCF-3. They had concussion injuries consistent with a mine explosion. There were no gunshot injuries reported.

85 posted on 08/24/2004 3:54:28 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Interesting Times

2 great articles you pointed to -

http://armor.typepad.com/bastardsword/2004/08/kerry_part_lxvi.html

which also points you to


http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_4808.shtml


86 posted on 08/24/2004 3:55:54 PM PDT by bitt
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To: Interesting Times
"Kerry Lied and Good Men Died!"

87 posted on 08/24/2004 3:58:11 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: backhoe

Have just sent the Swift Vets ten dollars, all I could afford this week, gave $300.00 to the Red Cross last week.


88 posted on 08/24/2004 4:02:28 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Put a fork in Kerry, he is done!!!!!!!)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
This is an amazingly telling point. I would LOVE to send this to some liberal friends. But I need a better source than you.... sorry! ;)

According to the SITREP (situation report) on the incident, there were seven wounded. Six of the seven injured were on PCF-3.

kerry's casualty report portion of it lists him as:

"TREATED BY MEDICAL OFFICER ABOARD USCGC SPENCER (WHEC-36) AND RETURNED TO DUTY WITH COASTAL DIVISION 11."

This is consistent with the account of his leaving PCF-94 in "Unfit for Command".

89 posted on 08/24/2004 4:12:30 PM PDT by Bob
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To: wyattearp
LOL - I'm just remembering all of the times that I (and others) got beat up, bruised up, and cut up during refueling in the Navy (forward refueling, Adams class can, Indian Ocean). I received more injuries during refueling than Kerry got in Vietnam!

Which Adams-class can were you on? I did a WestPac cruise on the Hoel (DDG-13) at the end of 1972.

90 posted on 08/24/2004 4:17:00 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Leisler

Yep. His purple heart document was submitted as shell Fragment.


91 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:10 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: zot
Thanks for posting this. It lays it all out in a clear and concise fashion. Makes for a nice quick-reference.

Keep digging, kerry. You're doing fine.


92 posted on 08/24/2004 4:52:33 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetiepiezer

Thank you very much- everything helps, and I really believe the money is better spent with them than with larger groups. This is true grassroots support.


93 posted on 08/24/2004 4:53:54 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Cboldt
I have a copy of Thurlow's Bronze Star award recommendation. Lambert is listed as an eyewitness as well as being recommended for a Bronze Star along with Kerry for the same action. Lambert is an RD1 (First class radioman). I assume Lambert was on the same boat, PCF 51, with Thurlow. I assume that Lambert was the one who pulled Thurlow on-board after he was not off of the boat. Lambert is not listed as one of the SBVFT. I have no idea if he is living or dead.
94 posted on 08/24/2004 4:58:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

knocked vs not


95 posted on 08/24/2004 5:02:18 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Isn't it great how our knowledge keeps expanding but the story doesn't change ... except for Kerry's version, of course.

What is new to me in this thread is that Rassmann was essentially there for a ride-along. Not that I'm faulting his being there ... in fact, it seems odd that Swifties alone would be sent out to check a village without accompanying troops doing the recon with the boats providing the cover ... but what tickles my interest is why Rassmann chose Kerry's boat and if there was any special relationship between the two men before the rescue incident. It calls into question Rassmann's impartiality. For example, were these two men cowboys who liked to shoot first and ask questions later, to blow things up with grenades, etc.? Now maybe this account is wrong but it does open up some more questions if it is right.

96 posted on 08/24/2004 5:04:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
From "M*A*S*H" when Hawkeye forces that weasel Major Burns to give up his Purple Heart.

Burns whines,"I deserve that medal! I got hit with shell fragments!"

Hawkeye replies, "Those were egg shell fragments that got stuck in your eye while you were eating breakfast!"

97 posted on 08/24/2004 5:06:15 PM PDT by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: Tacis

>>Kerry enlisted in 1966. His six was up in 1972.

Kerry's awards ALL say Kerry was USNR (Navy RESERVES) does that change what you wrote?

by the way, it DOES shed a little irony on Kerry lambasting Dubya's Texas Air Reserves service.


98 posted on 08/24/2004 5:33:40 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: kabar

how do we lookup the details of Rood's medal, and if Kerry had a part in writing it up or witnessing it?


99 posted on 08/24/2004 5:36:07 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: Interesting Times

"Have you seen this account?"

Thanks. It is well-researched and highly detailed.

I notice it says Lt. Rassman was the Awards and Decorations officer for his Special Forces unit. That's interersting. Awards and Decs might have been an additional duty, or he may have been an admin type and not a combat officer. Maybe someone can find his unit, specialty, and duty assignment at that time.


100 posted on 08/24/2004 5:38:51 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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