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***Fact: In 25 Years It Will Be Washington, Lincoln And Bush 43***
Stardate: 0408.11

Posted on 08/11/2004 7:08:05 AM PDT by The Wizard

And that's the REAL reason the demonrats hate GWB: not only is he everything they hoped billyboy would be, he will be remembered for planting the seeds that grew into peace to the Middle East.....

Washington was the Father of our country, and Lincoln freed the slaves, and GWB started the journey that will eventually bring peace to this troubled part of the world, and the rats hate him for it, so much so, that I wouldn't put ANYTHING past them.......

The real democrats, who controlled the party when Tip was the Man, lost control to the clintonistas, and he was so bad, the party regulars fled as the goon squad came in to defend their leader......

But as I sat watching Rummy from Afgahistan today speaking about 9 million folks so hungry to vote they risk their lives to register, it told any logical man that so it will be in Iraq, and all the other kingdoms throughout the world.....

The time of kings is over, now is the time of the little man, and he never had a stronger, braver friend than Ronald Reagan or GWB......

While not asking for this honor, GWB had it blown up on him on 9-11, and the world will be a safer, better place when this is done.

God Bless and protect GWB....


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To: bankwalker

ya and we would have just lost those lame southern ones which we don't really need anyway.


21 posted on 08/11/2004 7:36:32 AM PDT by barryallen
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To: bankwalker

LOL.

This entire thread is about opinions. Hell, much of what goes on at FR in general is about opinions. That, my friend, IS a fact.


22 posted on 08/11/2004 7:36:43 AM PDT by dmz
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To: bankwalker
More opinion presented as fact.

Is it my "opinion" that the founders envisioned a Union consisting of all the states?

Hardly.

Is it my "opinion" that contemporary Americans conceive of their country as an organic whole?

Hardly.

23 posted on 08/11/2004 7:36:45 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: The Wizard

Good article. You're right. George W. Bush will be considered one of the greatest President of the United States.


24 posted on 08/11/2004 7:38:42 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

Lincoln was one of the greatest President. He preserved the Union and banned slavery.


25 posted on 08/11/2004 7:39:05 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: wideawake

It is my opinion that Lincoln was a control freak, he would make a perfect demo'rat today, and shouldn't be included in the short list of greatest presidents.


26 posted on 08/11/2004 7:40:57 AM PDT by bankwalker (Real women don't like girly men.)
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To: hole_n_one

You know where to look for the best part of this thread...


27 posted on 08/11/2004 7:41:03 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Dubya's fan

Folks, I hope you're right about this. Before we put that much weight of expectation on GW's shoulders, we have to recognize that democracy in the ME, peace in Israel, and the end to terror is a really tall order.


28 posted on 08/11/2004 7:41:52 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Dubya's fan

Lincoln was one of the greatest President. He preserved the Union and banned slavery.




You went to a public school, clearly.

The Union never went away... EVER. Just had fewer members. Period. End of Discussion. If by preserve, you mean he didn't disband the USA after the CSA was formed, then fine, but for four years, the CSA was NOT part of the USA.

And he didn't "ban" slavery. MYTH ALERT. He issued an order to a FOREIGN COUNTRY that had no weight and no bearing on the USA itself.


29 posted on 08/11/2004 7:42:10 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf
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To: The Wizard

Just FYI, it happened again.

I saw that thread-title, and thought: "That sounds like a The Wizard title!"

You have a style, and I'm onto it!

(c;

Dan


30 posted on 08/11/2004 7:43:31 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: barryallen

Please expound on your dumb statement, newbie!


31 posted on 08/11/2004 7:44:28 AM PDT by cweese
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To: Old Sarge

I'm not too fond of Lincoln either.


32 posted on 08/11/2004 7:45:56 AM PDT by Constitution Day (free presidio9!)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

I hope GWB next term will revert this nation to state and individual independance from federal government. He is allowing states to defend the border as we speak, he wants medicare and SS to be individual owned. Soo Washington started the nation, Lincoln destroyed it, and GWB put it back. Lets hope the IRS and INS go away and states can protect the USA!!!


33 posted on 08/11/2004 7:47:21 AM PDT by Baseballguy
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To: The Wizard

The emancipation proclamation freed no one. The southern states had seceeded from the union (a right all states took as given by the way). As such, the union had no authority over the southern states, that is until they were forced back "into the fold" by military force. I can see Washington and Bush 43 in 25 years as being the great ones, but including lincoln is reprehensible.

See "THE REAL LINCOLN" Thomas DiLorenzo for information on just how much damage 16 did to the constitution!


34 posted on 08/11/2004 7:49:15 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Government might not be too bad...................if it weren't for all the polititians!")
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To: bankwalker
It is my opinion that Lincoln was a control freak, he would make a perfect demo'rat today, and shouldn't be included in the short list of greatest presidents.

Well, you're entitled to it.

Lincoln, like any other President, was a man not an angel.

I just look at the the situation he confronted and the stupid, cowardly or incompetent reactions of other statesmen.

Buchanan didn't do anything - just pretended there was no crisis.

Seward thought it would be a good idea to stir up a war with either France or Britain in the hopes that the South would forget about the crisis and unite with the unseceded states in a common front against the Europeans.

McClellan thought that he could reunite the country by waiting and whiling away the time drilling troops on the parade ground.

Lincoln was hard-nosed, singleminded and pursued his strategy of taking the fight to the CSA until his superior numbers and resources prevailed.

He threw everything he had at the problem and was not afraid to make mistakes as long as he was striving towards the goal.

And I don't think that Lincoln, like today's Democrats, would have tried to get permission from the French before aggressively going after terror. He would have gone after Al-Qaeda. He would have gone after Saddam Hussein.

35 posted on 08/11/2004 7:51:09 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
And a house that has had one of its outer walls ripped away would still continue to exist, it just would be better-ventilated. The US is not the US without the South. That's not what the founders envisioned and that's not how Americans think of their country.

Ironic ain't it

The states that seceded are now the most patriotic and the northern ones that fought to drag them back in are the most LIBERAL and unamerican in their loyalities
36 posted on 08/11/2004 7:52:00 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: petro45acp

You Lincoln hating crackers give this whole forum a bad name.

As for Dubya, I will someday proudly call him, "The Abraham Lincoln of the Middle East."


37 posted on 08/11/2004 7:52:47 AM PDT by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE WAR, TOO!)
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To: The Wizard

LOL


38 posted on 08/11/2004 7:53:17 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: cweese

figure it out yourself.

PS newbie...ouch that really cuts to the bone :)


39 posted on 08/11/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT by barryallen
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To: dmz

He has achieved several victories in less than 3 years: Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia aren't terrorist sanctuary now. In addition, Lybia has stopped his WMD program.


40 posted on 08/11/2004 7:53:38 AM PDT by Reader of news
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