[uncbob]

And a house that has had one of its outer walls ripped away would still continue to exist, it just would be better-ventilated. The US is not the US without the South. That's not what the founders envisioned and that's not how Americans think of their country.

Ironic ain't it

The states that seceded are now the most patriotic and the northern ones that fought to drag them back in are the most LIBERAL and unamerican in their loyalities

[TedsGarage]

The states that seceded are the most bellicose, as they always have been. I don't know if that makes them the most patriotic. They just have different ideas of how American power should be used.