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Ginsberg: "Kerry Must Answer This ESSENTIAL Point Re: Sandy Berger"
My videotape of Fox Interview. ^ | 7-20-04 | Ben Ginsberg

Posted on 07/20/2004 9:06:44 AM PDT by Matchett-PI

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To: twigs
"I think this is pure CYA for Clinton."

That's how it looks to me so far. And that raises the questions: Did Clinton either know about what Berger did, or ask him to do it? If this is indeed the motive, it will get some media attention, but not nearly what it would get if the Bush administration had done the same thing. Then, it would be a crisis.
61 posted on 07/20/2004 9:48:01 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: G.Mason; Corin Stormhands
Ruth Vader...
Did not go unnoticed!

LOL!!

Perfectly understandable..
she does look a lot like Darth's evil twin.

62 posted on 07/20/2004 9:48:22 AM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: rintense

What I'm saying is, because the Bush team hasn't seen them, they will be left wondering where Kerry got this info. No one else but the Clinton's and Kerry have seen these docs so Kerry can say he thought the whole thing up himself.


63 posted on 07/20/2004 9:49:29 AM PDT by rabidralph (My pit bull drives an SUV.)
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To: votelife
Berger Docugate ping

That's Burgular :)

64 posted on 07/20/2004 9:50:05 AM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: jslade
Thats not Ruth Bader it's Ruth Buzzi!

Yes, the same girlish good looks. . .but I'd rather have Ruth Buzzi making judicial decisions.

65 posted on 07/20/2004 9:50:49 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Daveinyork
I guess I'm dating myself, but I first thought of Alan
 
Not only dating yourself, but displaying a frightening familiarity with good for nothing, dope smoking, American hating, idiot-hippie poets.
 
Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

66 posted on 07/20/2004 9:51:07 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (France, because the moral compass of humanity needs a butt end.)
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To: Matchett-PI

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67 posted on 07/20/2004 9:52:44 AM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: ErnBatavia
The Penguin community has got to be embarrassed...

Goodness, you mean they have their own "community" now, just like all the other special interest groups?

68 posted on 07/20/2004 9:53:01 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: rintense
How do you inadvertently stuff classified documents down your pants and socks?

Are you asking for a demonstration so you'll be prepared in case you ever need to do this?

69 posted on 07/20/2004 9:55:01 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Matchett-PI

I assume that Berger stole the documents as an effort to cover up for himself and the clintons.

BUT, his corrupt character and his incompetence as a National Security Director were well known. WHY did Kerry hire him as one of his top foreign policy advisers? What does this say about Kerry's judgment?

One of the MAJOR differences between the clinton administration and the Bush administration is that Bush has placed highly competent and qualified adults in most of his cabinet posts. Clinton put people in mainly on a basis of their loyalty to him personally, and to hell with their competence. Most of them, in fact, were felons, because when you have the goods on someone you can blackmail them and they will be highly motivated to do whatever you want them to do--including treason in several cases.

Why is Kerry surrounding himself with crooks, felons, and traitors like Berger?


70 posted on 07/20/2004 9:57:10 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Matchett-PI

If someone in the Bush administration had done this, it would be played up as a "threat to democracy," the "worst thing since Watergate," "a willful deception," "a felony," etc. But since Berger is a Democrat, it will quickly blow over - "nothing there, folks."


71 posted on 07/20/2004 10:00:37 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: dawn53
How would that help Kerry?

Inquiring minds need to know.

Put it together with Rockerfeller's leaked memo on politicising the war and you have all sorts of potential mischief.

72 posted on 07/20/2004 10:02:23 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: onyx; My2Cents; doodlelady; Matchett-PI; Howlin; PhiKapMom; Grampa Dave; Dog; dead; arasina; ...
Ben Ginsberg: "The essential point is, did Sandy Berger, who is one of John Kerry's top advisors, get those documents - those classified documents that he was stuffing down his pants in the National Archives - to the Kerry Campaign for their benefit? And that's an essential question that needs to be answered by the Kerry Campaign. Did they benefit from documents and information they should not have had?"

Precisely my question when this story first broke. Initially, before knowing more facts, I thought Berger did this recently. Then, when I found out it was last October, that seemed to point away from a Kerry campaign connection. Why? Kerry's campaign was in the tank then, and the media was claiming Dean was the frontrunner. In addition, oily, smarmy David Gergen said on the Today show that Berger "reviewed" the documents for Clinton.

Nevertheless, I think Ben Ginsberg is right. A possible connection to the Kerry campaign can't be entirely ruled out. Even if Berger didn't do it at the behest of the campaign, it is entirely possible that he shared the classified info with Kerry and others in the campaign. At minimum, Berger was trying to see what damaging information was in the archives, and at minimum, he could have given the campaign a heads up to tread carefully about certain subjects.

In any case, we need to be very careful not to limit our own scrutiny to Clinton and his goons.

 


My tagline until the election:
A vote for Kerry-Edwards is a vote for Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Jacques Chirac, the UN, International Criminal Court, and Hollyweirdos.
Failure to vote, or a vote for a minority party, is a vote for Kerry-Edwards (unless you’re a liberal/Leftist who’ll vote Nader, a minority party, or stay home).

73 posted on 07/20/2004 10:02:47 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Get off your duffs and VOTE for Bush-Cheney in Nov. Your life may depend on it.)
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74 posted on 07/20/2004 10:02:54 AM PDT by catpuppy (Kerry-Edwards! The vet and his pet.)
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To: Matchett-PI

The answer is probably yes, he did give them to Kerry for use. We are only beginning to see the dpeths that the Rats will go to win this election.


75 posted on 07/20/2004 10:03:15 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: xm177e2
"I don't think Berger would have taken the documents so Kerry could read them (after all, Berger could read them in the archives, and relay the information to Kerry). If documents were taken and the "lost," it was to conceal information."

Kerry is laying the groundwork to sue everyone and their brother before AND after the election. Ginsberg is laying the groundwork to neutralize him.

Berger is already tied in to Clinton and everyone knows that the papers that diasappeared are damning to his administration, and therefore his legacy. SEE Mark R. Levin's article of April 15, 2004

The point is that Berger is NOW also an advisor to Kerry and is on his re-election team. We must not allow the media to get away with only tying Berger to Clinton. Berger's alleged criminal activity must ALSO rightly be tied to Kerry since he's working for him now, and it's reasonal to ask the *essential* question that Ginsberg says must be answered.

76 posted on 07/20/2004 10:07:09 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Matchett-PI
Sharp as a tack, Ben. Good job.

The fact that Berger serves as a Kerry advisor makes the question of what, if anything, Berger shared with Kerry plausible...plus, it has the benefit of both keeping the story alive and tying "Kerry" together with "Clinton" and "Berger" in the minds of the general public following the story.

This is a good spot for the RNC and the BC'04 campaign to go into overdrive. Saturate the press with talking points along these lines. Steal away any pre-convention momentum from those Rat clowns.

77 posted on 07/20/2004 10:08:51 AM PDT by LincolnLover (LSU: 2003 National Football Champions, GEAUXING FOR TWO in 2004!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Sharp as a tack, Ben. Good job.

The fact that Berger serves as a Kerry advisor makes the question of what, if anything, Berger shared with Kerry plausible...plus, it has the benefit of both keeping the story alive and tying "Kerry" together with "Clinton" and "Berger" in the minds of the general public following the story.

This is a good spot for the RNC and the BC'04 campaign to go into overdrive. Saturate the press with talking points along these lines. Steal away any pre-convention momentum from those Rat clowns.

78 posted on 07/20/2004 10:08:51 AM PDT by LincolnLover (LSU: 2003 National Football Champions, GEAUXING FOR TWO in 2004!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Sharp as a tack, Ben. Good job.

The fact that Berger serves as a Kerry advisor makes the question of what, if anything, Berger shared with Kerry plausible...plus, it has the benefit of both keeping the story alive and tying "Kerry" together with "Clinton" and "Berger" in the minds of the general public following the story.

This is a good spot for the RNC and the BC'04 campaign to go into overdrive. Saturate the press with talking points along these lines. Steal away any pre-convention momentum from those Rat clowns.

79 posted on 07/20/2004 10:09:33 AM PDT by LincolnLover (LSU: 2003 National Football Champions, GEAUXING FOR TWO in 2004!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Yes, it is necessary to remember the KERRY-Berger connection!
but this from the AP story...

Clinton asked Berger last year to review and select the administration documents that would be turned over to the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

There was NO legitimate reason for Clinton to ask Berger to do this...
So based on what we NOW KNOW, here is a better translation of the Clinton-speak...

Clinton asked Berger last year to review and DEEP-SIX the administration documents that would be HIDDEN FROM the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

80 posted on 07/20/2004 10:10:16 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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