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Cops rip judge: 'It's giving an open door to terrorists'
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/213958p-184246c.html ^ | 7-20-04 | R. GEARTY and M. McPHEE

Posted on 07/20/2004 4:40:29 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

NYPD cops blasted a federal judge's ruling aimed at stopping them from searching demonstrators' bags outside the Republican National Convention, saying the decision gives "an open door to terrorists."

Manhattan Federal Judge Robert Sweet's decision - made public yesterday - prohibits blanket searches of bulky bags and backpacks in the absence of a "specific threat."

"In this day and age of terrorism, it's an extremely dangerous step in a very dangerous time in New York City," said an outraged Michael Palladino, president of the Detectives Endowment Association.

"It's giving an open door to terrorists, and further handcuffing police at a time that they should be given a little bit more latitude," Palladino said. He said he plans to urge Mayor Bloomberg to appeal the ruling.

Sweet's decision also limits how many streets the NYPD can close around Madison Square Garden, and prohibits cops from penning protesters behind metal barricades.

The ruling does not prevent the use of hand-held metal-detecting wands around the perimeter of the convention.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
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To: twntaipan

Absolutely.

GW must win this election, and we must give him more senators.

4 to 8 years of al Queery would be the end of this country due to his terrible politics and the judges he would recommend.


61 posted on 07/20/2004 5:59:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Teresa Heinz Kerry: 'I have to say that John Edwards is very beautiful'...)
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To: babyface00

Hey, the paradox is that if someone sees you with a weapon, they figure you both know how to and will use it if necesseary, and leave you alone. Amazing. No threats, no promises. Just plain facts.


62 posted on 07/20/2004 6:02:16 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: OXENinFLA

But they can close 40 miles of roadway around the Rat convention in Boston?


63 posted on 07/20/2004 6:03:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: OXENinFLA

What is wrong with this judge?


64 posted on 07/20/2004 6:09:56 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: OXENinFLA
What is this judge thinking?!?!?!?!

The following:

"We must protect the rights of radicals to disrupt the GOP convention. Bigger news story. May help kerry win."

65 posted on 07/20/2004 6:17:11 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: OXENinFLA
. . . prohibits blanket searches of bulky bags and backpacks in the absence of a "specific threat."

Talk about an utterly useless ruling.

The NYPD will simply claim that they've received a specific threat about protesters at the GOP convention, and everyone will be subject to a thorough search.

Does anyone here think a dottering old fool of a Federal judge is going to complain about such a turn of events?

66 posted on 07/20/2004 6:19:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: All

Ignore this asshole, don't appeal....IGNORE


67 posted on 07/20/2004 6:24:47 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: All

Ignore these asshole scumbag ignorant judges....stop appealing and start ignoring....these asshole enemy judges need to be limited.

They risk nothing of their own.....only our lives are affected.....

68 posted on 07/20/2004 6:27:13 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: OXENinFLA

To bad this planted pipe bomb didn't go off in this judges personal drug use room.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1174625/posts

TIMES SQ. SUBWAY BLAST HURTS COP
The New York Post ^ | 07/20/2004 | The New York Post


Posted on 07/19/2004 11:58:28 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY


A small pipe bomb packed with gunpowder and BBs exploded in a subway station last night, injuring a transit cop and throwing several blocks near Times Square into chaos.

A police spokesman insisted that authorities do not believe that the incident was terrorism — but federal officials, including the Secret Service and the Joint Terrorism Task Force are investigating, it was learned.

The officer, whose name was withheld, was standing near a staircase leading to the A, C and E trains at 43rd Street and Eighth Avenue at around 8 p.m., when he saw a burning knapsack, police said.

He quickly pushed two commuters to safety, but as he was calling for assistance, the bag exploded, cops said.



This may have been a dry run by the Kerrorists, whose judge has enabled them to have an open pathway to cause severe problems before and during the convention.

Old Carter appointed judges never retire, they just stay on and make life miserable for other Americans.


69 posted on 07/20/2004 6:30:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Teresa Heinz Kerry: 'I have to say that John Edwards is very beautiful'...)
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To: OXENinFLA

And air marshals can't do anything until after something goes boom.


70 posted on 07/20/2004 6:30:57 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: twntaipan

Shocking news.


71 posted on 07/20/2004 7:04:26 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: The Wizard

Three problems
1 Law suits..lots and lots of law suits
2 If anyone is arrested for something found because of the search they will be set free
3 We are (in theory) a nation of laws.

This judges order will be stayed very soon. (IMO)


72 posted on 07/20/2004 7:09:33 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: OXENinFLA
DemocRAT judge - I betcha!
73 posted on 07/20/2004 7:14:46 AM PDT by Chieftain ('W' in '04!)
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To: gunnygail
One, he was born in 1922, he's obvious QUITE SENILE!

My mother was born in 1922 and she is NOT senile.

74 posted on 07/20/2004 7:18:02 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

The prohibition on penning is far more important than the bag search prohibition IMHO. The NYPD has been using penning very successfully from the WTO protests and the New Year's Eve celebrations for years. It is the only thing that works to prevent crowds from turning into mobs.

Maybe this judge thinks that uncontrollable mobs are an essential feature of free expression. If the police can't use penning, they are going to have to use horses, mace, batons and tear gas, and things are going to get ugly.

Maybe that is what the judge is going for...


75 posted on 07/20/2004 7:23:23 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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wait, are we for the police today? or against them?

just want to make sure. well I'll go back through the posts and look for either "hero" or jackbooted thug" and decide....


76 posted on 07/20/2004 7:29:56 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: lightingguy

Check this out.


77 posted on 07/20/2004 7:46:08 AM PDT by agrace
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To: babyface00
In the second amendment, the right is more absolute.

Kind of like the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
78 posted on 07/20/2004 7:51:54 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Here is one of the primary differences between libertarianism and conservatism. The libertarians will damn the torpedos and run smack into them rather than turn the wheel slightly to avoid. A conservative will turn the wheel, knowing he will have to fight to return it to its original position, but is willing to risk a little than risk it all.

If the police have to search my backpack in order to keep the ragheads from blowing up my fellow citizens, then have at it. If I want to go to the convention, I have to be willing to give a little.


79 posted on 07/20/2004 7:53:34 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Puppage
Will the same ruling be applied at the rat convention?

Aren't demonstrators in Boston going to be limited to a fenced off "Free Speech Area" located on a piece of construction debris covered wasteland far away from the convention hall? And the 'Rats are allowed to take over Midtown Manhattan...

80 posted on 07/20/2004 7:56:43 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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