Yeesh, I just sat down...hold on, let me get my helmet..
Posted on 07/11/2004 4:03:45 PM PDT by lulu21
I just wanted to make a statement regarding Kerry's views on abortion. I wanted to find out what his opinion was, so I came to this website. I found article talking about how he supposidly 'opposes' abortion. Then the same author discusses how in other statements, he has said it is the woman's right. Now, he is being criticized for having contradicting statements. I just wanted to clear this up.
His actual words in saying he opposed abortion were, "There is something called freedom of conscience in the Catholic Church. I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life begins at conception. But I don't take my Catholic beliefs, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant, on a Jew, or an atheist who doesn't share it. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America."
I don't think that people understand what he is saying. He is saying that he does NOT like abortion. He PERSONALLY doesn't want it. However, he cannot make a law against something just because his religion does not believe in it. He talks of separation of church and state. That is what we are supposed to have in America. This is why we cannot have organized prayer in schools. It is also why you cannot ban gay marriage on the account of your 'religion' being against it. I am Catholic as well. I also study medicine. I don't like abortion, either. I wish it was illegal. However, I do understand his point that he cannot make it illegal because he doesn't like it. That would be unconstitutional and totally against 'American' values. I hope everyone can understand that.
Oh, by the way -- the speech I linked on my post? It was provided by James Taranto at Opinion Journal.com's Best of the Web.
The Kerry website has delinked his NARAL speech. I'm sure it's just a glitch. </sarcasm>
Member Since: July 11th, 2004.
Nothing but a Kerry stooge.
Sorry but under Catholic Faith life begins at CONCEPTION, period.... you either live your faith or you don't. If you live your faith and life begins at conception, allowing abortion to be legal is a violation of the 10 commandments of God....
Kerry's attempt to spin his behavior as moral is nothing more than the same old Democratic nonsense... last guy wanted us to question what the meaning of "is" is... this guy wants us to "ignore the faith behind the curtain"...
I got no problem with Kerry admitting he's not a devout Catholic.. because honestly he's not. But to try to claim he's a devout catholic and then attempt to explain away his affronts to the Catholic faith as being a good catholic... well... that just ain't gonna fly.
LOL.
Convenient "glitches" that Kerry has. Hah!
Yeesh, I just sat down...hold on, let me get my helmet..
Does this mean that John Kerry will also recognize my right to refuse to pay taxes, too? Or recognize the rights of men to beat their wives?
/sarcasm off/
He's full of sh!t, no matter how you try to spin it. Every law in this criminalizes any kind of behavior effectively forces one moral viewpoint on others.
I will add this. "Separation of church and state" is a phrase plucked out of aletter from a President to a Dnabury Baptist Minister by an anti-Catholic bigot by the name of Justice Hugo Black who enshrined it in the secular, lefty hall of fame in, I believe, 1947.
The Church is also against murder. But Kerry would never apply "Freedom of Conscience" to murder. If he truely believed life begins at conception, he must then see abortion as murder, and he should oppose it just like any other murder.
Kittie, kittie, kittie!
lol!
"Freedom of conscience" presumes a well-formed conscience, and does not in any way condone or allow action in direct contradiction to Church teaching.
The right to life is not only Church teaching, but is part of the natural law, which cannot be overridden by civil law.
Nice try, but no cigar.
5..4...3...2...1...
Lulu where are U U
I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. (1)
Please, cute little lulu21, who just signed up today (awwww that's soooo cuuuute) Have the courage of your convictions to stand up for your core values.
Yes, he tacitly and gutlessly approves of it.
it is as simple as that.
Either you are for or against something. There really is no middle ground as he and you are apparently claiming.
Although, it would make sense to not be in the position of legislating morality, the courts legislated it for us.
Now the only other option is to legislate it out.
Those who fail to take a position for political reasons, as Kerry does with everything from fruit to nuts, have no moral convictions and therefore no moral clarity.
They are nothing but putz balls.
He's perfectly comfortable with laws against paying unfair wages, and prohibiting racial discrimination. Both of these positions are very much in alignment with the Catholic faith. Yet abortion is about killing a fellow human being, and suddenly he can't bring himself to support legislation?
His rationalization is a paper-thin defense, only believed by the amazingly gullible, or morally corrupt.
It's murder cut and dry!!
What if his religion does not believe in theft, rape, or exceeding the speed limit?
As Kerry has shown that he has no core values ever thing he supports must have a immediate payoff.
The kids can't vote for another 18 years. Thus there is no quick payoff to Kerry trying for their vote.
But the people who want to kill these kids for fun and profit are currently able to vote. So it pays for Kerry to grovel for their votes
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