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L.A. TIMES POLL DISHONEST
Crosswalk/Drudge Report/Roll Call ^ | 6.15.2004 | McCullough/Drudge/Roll Call Editors

Posted on 06/15/2004 8:13:10 AM PDT by KMC1

Roll Call Magazine is now reporting that the Los Angeles Times newspaper misrepresented the latest results in their on going Presidential Poll. The poll had shown John Kerry with a 7% point lead over President George W. Bush. According to Roll Call, the results were impacted because of greatly advantaged sample rate. Democrats included composed 38% of the responses, while only 25% of Republicans were included. The sample rate is said to be an "unheard of margin" in polling methods today.

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1 posted on 06/15/2004 8:13:10 AM PDT by KMC1
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To: KMC1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1153803/posts?page=31


2 posted on 06/15/2004 8:14:37 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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Gee, what a surprise! A slanted poll from the LA Times? Why, I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked!


3 posted on 06/15/2004 8:17:01 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: KMC1

Why am I not surprised that the LA Slimes would do this?


4 posted on 06/15/2004 8:17:23 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: KMC1

POLLS by the media are nothing but a free ticket to circumvent the election laws as to money spent by the slimey lib's. It was practically invented by the slimey Clinton mob.


5 posted on 06/15/2004 8:19:27 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: RandallFlagg

Only 38% Democrat? Looks like some improvement there.


6 posted on 06/15/2004 8:20:54 AM PDT by mlbford2 (Sorry for spelling errors, I'm a product of a state university)
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To: KMC1

And this little tidbit of news actually surprises people????

It actually upsets and concerns some of our fellow Freepers????

Why?

Why does anything the LA Times says or prints worry anyone here???

I don't understand...it's a biased, lying, fantasy rag little better than the National Inquirer.

In fact, the Inquirer says that Kerry is favored over Bush by most Martians!

Just about as meaningful!

Come on folks....get real! Just disregard anything coming from the LA Times.


7 posted on 06/15/2004 8:25:21 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: KMC1

LA Times unfair!!!!

Say it ain't so!!!


8 posted on 06/15/2004 8:25:41 AM PDT by Bean Counter
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To: Uncle George
POLLS by the media are nothing but a free ticket to circumvent the election laws
That's what's so outrageous about all this. The Slimes should be charged with violation of election laws.
9 posted on 06/15/2004 8:30:08 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: KMC1

Bump to spread the word


10 posted on 06/15/2004 8:30:38 AM PDT by aquila48
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somebody with more math brains than me (and that is a lot of you) if 38% were demos and 25% were pubs and kerry had a 7% lead, what would the "lead" be if the poll was 50-50 demos and pubs?


11 posted on 06/15/2004 8:32:38 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: aquila48

They seem to be working full speed on their own marginalization.


12 posted on 06/15/2004 8:32:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: KMC1

bump


13 posted on 06/15/2004 8:32:46 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I stood up and fought against Ronald Reagan's illegal war in Central America." -John Kerry)
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To: Uncle George
POLLS by the media are nothing but a free ticket to circumvent the election laws as to money spent by the slimey lib's.

Exactly. It was a poll in name only.

14 posted on 06/15/2004 8:34:38 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: KMC1
It is a sad day for free and honest elections when the printed and TV media tries to elect a person of low quality.Kerry is a person that has skirted the laws of this country all of his adult life.But the media will spend BILLIONS to elect someone they can make policy for.
15 posted on 06/15/2004 8:35:06 AM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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L.A. TIMES POLL DISHONEST

And in other news, the Pope is reported to be Catholic...

16 posted on 06/15/2004 8:36:31 AM PDT by Begin (RIP RWR 1911-2004)
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To: SF Republican

This skewing of the base is common in many polls, it is based on the assumption that there are so many more registered dems, or that dems vote with higher frequency. So a 50 50 electorate is not considered reality. The problem is that the percents that are selected are easy to "push" and may not be real either.

No one would question that there is some ratio of dems to repubs that would give a poll representative of an actual election, but you can expect the LA times to try for good news for their readers. Zogby does this too, and close to the election he seems to get the right percentage. Now, when its time to try to push undecided voters into one or the other camp, honest polls are hard to find. For that I watch FOX.


17 posted on 06/15/2004 8:39:43 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: SF Republican

You'd have to know what percentage of each party voted with their own party's candidate. The biggest shift would occur if each party's voters voted for their guy, and independants were the only swing voters.

Bush is supposedly leading independents by 3%. I've seen where Rats and Pubbies were about equal in voter registration nationally, so if the same number of Rats and Pubbies were crossing party lines (a big presumption), Bush would be up about 1%. Bush's people complained that the poll was leaning about 10 to 12 percent too democratic.


18 posted on 06/15/2004 8:45:41 AM PDT by dangus
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Why are you overlooking another possibility? Gross incompetence. It wouldnt be the first time someone screwed up and forgot to control the sample. I really doubt they set out to find 38% Dems and 25% Republicans. I think it just happened and if they noticed it in the data, they buried it in order to satisfy the editors desire to run with story.


19 posted on 06/15/2004 8:48:01 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: KMC1
"L.A. TIMES POLL DISHONEST"
20 posted on 06/15/2004 8:52:32 AM PDT by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of charity that you receive.)
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