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Your Right to Use Vitamins Is in Jeopardy, Senators Push Regulatory Assault on Vitamins
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | 09.03.03 | Dr. Julian Whitaker

Posted on 06/09/2004 7:11:35 PM PDT by Coleus

Your Right to Use Nutritional Supplements Is in Jeopardy
Senators Push Regulatory Assault on Vitamins

by Dr. Julian Whitaker

Posted Sep 3, 2003

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We need to take action, and we need to take action now. There is a movement in Congress to push through legislation that would restrict your freedom to use nutritional supplements, and could destroy the nutritional supplement industry?and, in the process, endanger your health.

Here is the problem. Reacting to the hysteria over ephedra, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D.-Ill.) has introduced S. 722, cosponsored by colleagues Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.), Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.), and Charles Schumer (D.-N.Y.). The bill gives unprecedented power to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to remove nutritional supplements from the market. Here’s how:



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atkins; atkinsdiet; benny; democrat; dratkins; dshea; fda; food; foodsupplements; health; healthcare; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryhealthcare; jonathanvwright; minerals; nannystate; rights; s722; supplements; vitamins; wod; wodlist
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To: Coleus

I have a right to use vitamins?! The fact that this group is adding yet another imaginary right is good enough reason not to sign.


21 posted on 06/10/2004 10:00:25 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu

Unless the Constitution expressly gives the government overisight, then yes, you do have the right to use vitamins.


22 posted on 06/10/2004 10:04:29 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

No, that kind of thinking is how the whole "penumbra concept" BS got started. While I agree that this is unconstitutional interference in interstate trade that oesn't mean I have a right to use vitamins, what it means is the government doesn't have a right to try to crush this industry. Important difference.


23 posted on 06/10/2004 10:08:36 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: tdadams
I must have missed that clause.

Most people believe the Constitution works the opposite way. That is, if the right is not expressly listed in the Consitution, then the people don't have it. Understandable, since in reality that is how it has come to work over the years.

24 posted on 06/10/2004 10:08:46 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: discostu

So there are no such things as "inalienable" rights?


25 posted on 06/10/2004 10:10:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

There such things as inalienable rights, using vitamins ain't on that list.


26 posted on 06/10/2004 10:13:29 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Wolfie; tdadams; discostu

Not ALL rights are listed in the Constitution that is why they put in the vague 9th amendment (unnamed rights not listed) which became the bellwether for the Roe vs.. Wade decision with the "right to privacy".

And those rights NOT enumerated in the Bill of Rights are then left up to the STATES and NOT for Hillary and the US Congress, 10th amendment states' rights.

There are 70 million of us who have done just very well taking supplements without Hillary and the Congress watching over us. I think we can survive without them.


27 posted on 06/10/2004 10:14:48 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

I don't have a problem with the suppliment industry, I don't have a problem with trying to stop this bill. What I have a problem with is people adding "rights" willie-nillie. As we both pointed out, that's how we got this "right to privacy" concept that somehow includes abortion. It's bad logic and a bad argument that leads to future troubles.


28 posted on 06/10/2004 10:18:06 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
So what is "on the list"?

Pragmatically speaking, of course, it doesn't matter. The Feds will do whatever they want, whenever they want.

29 posted on 06/10/2004 10:22:16 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: discostu

Buying, owning, and wearing white boxers isn't on the list either. What is your point?


30 posted on 06/10/2004 10:24:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: discostu
What I have a problem with is people adding "rights" willie-nillie.

They were never added, they always existed as non-enumerated.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

31 posted on 06/10/2004 10:29:35 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Wolfie; discostu
So what is "on the list"?

I'm eager to find out what my inalienable rights are, and why they don't include taking vitamins. (I hope they include eating food.)

32 posted on 06/10/2004 10:30:27 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Wolfie
"you do have the right to use vitamins."

Wow! Cool.

Hey, Wolfie, is that an unalienable right like the unalienable right to do drugs and the unalienable right to own a machine gun?

33 posted on 06/10/2004 10:32:15 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Our local favorite vitamin store is also concerned about this bill. While S722 appears to still be in process, I understand that another similar bill has passed and is in committee with the house.

Dr. Whitaker (and others) have an interest in selling vitamins. I have an interest in having them available to take. The vitamin industry pales in comparison to the pharmaceutical companies for the amount of money they want to control.

One man's ephedra may be viewed either positively or negatively by others. I think he should have the freedom to make the choice himself - w/o government control except for the purity of whatever supplement it claims to be.

34 posted on 06/10/2004 10:36:59 AM PDT by NorthGA
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The Origins of the Ninth Amendment

"The origins of the ninth amendment can be traced to the debate surrounding the ratification of the Constitution. The Antifederalists, who opposed ratification, concentrated much of their attack on the absence of a bill of rights. Although many Antifederalists were probably more concerned with defeating the Constitution than with obtaining a bill of rights, they repeatedly pressed this charge because it struck a responsive cord with the people. The Federalists who supported ratification, such as Alexander Hamilton and James Wilson, gave two answers to this complaint."

"First, they said that a bill of rights was unnecessary. Because the federal government was one of enumerated and limited powers, it would have no power to violate the rights of the people. "Why, for instance," asked Hamilton, "should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed?" Second, they argued that a bill of rights would be dangerous. Enumerating any rights might suggest to later interpreters of the Constitution that the rights not specified had been surrendered. An enumeration of rights could thereby lead to an unwarranted expansion of federal power and a corresponding erosion of individual rights."

The Rights Retained by The People [and the presumption of liberty]

35 posted on 06/10/2004 10:39:40 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Wolfie

Life liberty persuit of happiness speech assembly religion bear arms freedom from unwarranted search and seizure... come on guys these are no brainers, you have read the Declaration of Independance and the Bill or Rights.


36 posted on 06/10/2004 10:39:58 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Dead Corpse

My point is that making up sillie rights is how we've gotten stuck with right to abortion and right to homosexual marriage. If you want to stop a stupid bill (which I'm all for) don't do it with a falcious argument that makes up some previously never before seen "right" which could have some pretty annoying consequences down the road.


37 posted on 06/10/2004 10:41:51 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: robertpaulsen
Actually dumba$$, the machine gun part is in fact listed. Ever hear of the Second Amendment? What is a machine gun if not in the classification of a militia armament?

I know the whole "shall not be infringed" thing confuses you...

38 posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: freeeee

Well great, then by that logic there are penumbra concepts and Roe v Wade was right. Of course since we all know there aren't any penumbra concepts and Roe v Wade was garbage then obviously you're interpreting the 9th and 10th too broadly.


39 posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:36 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
So keeping extra Constitutional powers out of the hands of the Feds is now "silly".

Thanks for playing...

40 posted on 06/10/2004 10:44:21 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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