Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Nine

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[JustPiper]

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"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD EIGHT

KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia - Tens of American, European and other hostages were released Sunday and a gunman believed to be the lead Islamic militant holding them was arrested, a Saudi security official said, adding that two other gunmen were "in the process of being arrested."

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm

[Letitring]

I just can't wrap my mind around them having Tesla toys. It just won't go there. :)

[Hegemony Cricket]

Bookmarking and bumping the movie "Blue Thunder"!

[StillProud2BeFree]

Al Majala - the magazine.

Here's some more on Hizb ut-Tahrir

Hizb ut-Tahrir. Party of Liberation.
http://www.hizb-ut-tahrir.org/english/

Looks like they have some detractors:
http://www.htexposed.com/
http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/misguided/Hizbut-Tahrir.htm

Then there's a NY area radio station:

http://www.radiotahrir.com/
Welcome to our Tahrir web page offering you a selection of audio productions from the hundreds of interviews we have broadcast over Pacifica-WBAI, in New York. In addition to Arab and Muslim American personalities appearing on Tahrir, we offer you comments on events and issues affecting our lives in the USA and abroad.

Our newly designed webpage is expanded pages to serve both our radio listeners at 99.5 fm and the worldwide internet community.

[all4one]

So many idiots in one place, they call it a pilgrimage...hopefully our military calls it a target.

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

These things need repeating. Only in the South... Southern Hospitality at the G-8
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The biggest threat to public safety, in the fire chief's opinion, is confrontation between anti-G8 protesters and the island's massively beefed-up police force. "The Feds are taking into consideration that this is south-east Georgia, where a lot of people carry guns," he says, with something like pride

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a playing-field over on the mainland has been fenced for use as a detention centre

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Today the beaches, patrolled by sharky, high-speed gunboats, are empty and shorn of the sea broom and bramble that provided much-needed shade for humans and wildlife (terrorists who make it past the tanks and missiles might hide there

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And what of the fabled bonanza for local business? Some of the shops on St Simons are boarded up against protesters. Others are open, but empty.

Last week shopkeepers took out an advertisement begging for local custom to make up for the lack of profitable visitors. (Feds aren't big on buying knick-knacks). The hotel and rental industry, with the notable exception of The Sea Island Company, has suffered a massive loss.

One hotel was block-booked by government agencies, presumably to queer the pitch for the more affluent protester, and last week, the bookings were cancelled. No apology, no explanation, and, crucially, no compensation.



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So there won't be too many people on St Simons waving the G8 flags today. "No matter which way you look at it, you're polishing a turd," says Hairy Dave. "You can polish it up as much as you want, dress it up in pretty pink ribbons, and what have you got at the end? A shiny turd."

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So there won't be too many people on St Simons waving the G8 flags today. "No matter which way you look at it, you're polishing a turd," says Hairy Dave. "You can polish it up as much as you want, dress it up in pretty pink ribbons, and what have you got at the end? A shiny turd."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1149891/posts

Thanks for posting freeperfromnj this is priceless!

[cgk]

Only found it here:

Amtrak train derails on S. Side

Tribune staff reports
Published June 8, 2004, 1:33 PM CDT

An Amtrak train heading inbound to Chicago from Indianapolis derailed this afternoon on Chicago's South Side.

No injuries were reported, but the incident temporarily shut down service on a Metra commuter line to the southwest suburbs.

Train No. 317, the Hoosier State, derailed at 12:30 p.m. at 42nd Street just west of the Dan Ryan Expressway. It was heading north toward Union Station, CLTV reported.

The locomotive lost contact with the tracks at a switch, and both it and a passenger coach derailed, said Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari. The two cars remained upright.

About 40 passengers were to be taken off the train and transferred to another, inbound train that was following it, CLTV reported. The Chicago Fire Department remained at the scene as railroad personnel worked to put the train back on the tracks.

The incident forced the cancellation of two afternoon trains of Metra's Southwest Service to Orland Park, which uses the same set of tracks to leave downtown Chicago, said Dan Schnolis, spokesman for the commuter rail agency.

Buses will substitute for Trains No. 7 and 9, due to depart Union Station at 1:45 p.m. and 3 p.m., Schnolis said. It was not yet known if the accident would affect the afternoon rush hour on that line.

Copyright © 2004, Chicago Tribune

[all4one]

I have been to the National Cathedral many times, very beautiful church. Such a sad state of affairs that the final mass for Pres. Reagan will occur with a need for extreme security measures. This is just the type of existence that did not want for our country; and he valiantly fought to preserve our security. He would be shocked what has transpired in these last three years here in the U.S. If someone would have told me back in August '01 that we would have constant terror warnings here in the U.S.; I would have thought that they had gone mad.

[liberallyconservative]

Most definitely. I would like to have seen a wholesale housecleaning at all of the alphabet agencies as soon as Pres. Bush took office.

[cgk]

If someone would have told me back in August '01 that we would have constant terror warnings here in the U.S.; I would have thought that they had gone mad.

There were a number of people here on that fateful terrible September day who still thought we had gone mad. They still do, sometimes. ;)

[all4one]

I love your FR homepage.....great links. Your daughter is so adorable! With two sons...my husband and I see friends' little daughters and sometimes say...one more...but I know that we would probably have another son. Our house is alrealy boiling over with testosterone.

[liberallyconservative]

I am in agreement with both of you; I do think they are probing the system. Too many incidents recently of suspicious persons being questioned and RELEASED.

[Cindy]

THANK YOU.

[ExSoldier]

"However, the info we are discussing relates to a ground burst. What about an airburst from 20, 30, 50 stories up. Or even higher?"

An airburst is counterproductive to terrorist goals. A LOT less residual radiation is produced and you lack that all important psychological trauma (and photo op) produced by the stereotypical "mushroom cloud" effect. The mushroom cloud is the result of a ground burst (anything from street level to about 100 feet---ten stories) where the dirt is instantly irradiated and shot thousands of feet into the sky to slowly settle and DRIFT on the wind as radioactive particles. IIRC from my nbc school notes, you can sometimes measure the size of the blast and the range to the blast by measuring the angle from your location to the top of the cloud at a designated time period...something like that.

Two hundred feet to five hundred feet of altitude isn't enough for a good airburst to be really effective. You'd need something like 1500 to 2000 feet and timing of the blast would be critical. Something special in the way of triggers and detonators. An ICBM fired from a nationstate like Russia (the former USSR) or China (possible now thanks to Clinton) would have the lab facilities to construct such a device and test it until they got it right.

But I'm thinking that sort of thing is beyond our opponent until such a nationstate is willing to risk a nuclear retaliatory strike from an enraged USA for aligning themselves with terror. It could happen, especially in the aftermath of a massive strike, where the perception real or imagined, is that the USA is "on the ropes."

[mindspy]

Trying to catch up here. But I think that they are communicated to state and local because I have noticed really heavy police presence. I don't think it's just because I'm paying more attention I really think they are in full force and effect. I also get the sense that our Homeland Security and other Fed agencies working on anti terrorism are scrambling right now. I think that they went public with so much recently because they know something coming down but are at their wits ends to stop it and they figured they might have a better chance if the public were more aware. Just my thoughts. Also, it's 1:00 and no attack yet so I must eat crow and say, Thank God I was wrong on my 6/8 date prediction. I hope were are all wrong but I not optimistic.

[angcat]

How is good ol White Plains? I worked on North Street for 8 years with General Foods. We did plenty of boozing at Olivers and Gambelies (sp).

[all4one]

Chronology of Attacks on Westerners in Saudi Arabia 08 Jun 2004 15:20:43 GMT

LONDON, June 8 (Reuters) - Unidentified gunmen shot dead an American in the Saudi capital of Riyadh on Tuesday. He worked for a U.S. contracting firm. Here is a short chronology of major attacks on Westerners in Saudi Arabia since 1995.

Nov 13, 1995 - Five Americans and two Indians killed and 60 people wounded in an explosion in a car park near a U.S.-run military training centre in Riyadh.

June 25, 1996 - Bomb in fuel truck kills 19 American soldiers and wounds nearly 400 people at U.S. military housing complex in eastern city of Khobar.

Nov 17, 2000 - British engineer Christopher Rodway, an employee at Riyadh military hospital, killed, and his wife Jane injured by car bomb in the capital.

Nov 22, 2000 - Two British men and a British woman employed by a Saudi firm 50 percent owned by U.S. aircraft giant Boeing, and one Irish woman, injured by car bomb in Riyadh.

Dec 15, 2000 - David Brown, a British employee of Coca Cola International, badly burned in Khobar by a bomb hidden in a package near the windscreen of his car.

March 15, 2001 - A Briton and an Egyptian injured by an explosive device placed in a bin near a bookstore in Riyadh.

May 2, 2001 - Parcel bomb blows up in the face of American doctor Gary Hatch at Saad Medical Centre in Khobar, seriously wounding him.

Oct 6, 2001 - Two foreigners including one American killed and four others wounded in Khobar.

June 20, 2002 - British banker Simon John Veness killed by car bomb in Riyadh.

Sept 29, 2002 - German man killed when what appears to be a bomb rips through his car in Riyadh.

Feb 20, 2003 - Briton working for defence contractor BAE Systems shot dead in Riyadh.

May 12, 2003 - Suicide bombers attack housing compounds in Riyadh, killing 35 people. At least 200 are wounded.

Nov 9, 2003 - Suspected al Qaeda suicide bombers blow up Riyadh residential compound housing foreigners and Saudis, killing 18.

May 1, 2004 - Gunmen kill five Westerners and two police in a shooting spree in the oil centre of Yanbu.

May 29, 2004 - Militants attack oil company and housing compounds in Khobar, then flee to the city's Oasis housing compound, taking dozens of hostages. Seven Saudi security police killed.

May 30, 2004 - Saudi commandos storm the Oasis compound and free 41 hostages. Twenty-two civilians are killed including an American, a Briton and an Italian. Three gunmen escape.

June 6, 2004 - Saudi gunmen kill Simon Cumbers, an Irish cameraman working for the BBC, and seriously wound his British colleague Frank Gardner as they film in an Islamist militant area of the Saudi capital Riyadh.

June 8 - An American, working for U.S. company Vinnell which helps train the Saudi National Guard, is shot dead in an eastern suburb of Riyadh.

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[Labyrinthos]

Don't get me started on Oliviers. Best pick-up joint -- I mean best burger joint in town.

[all4one]

Suspicious Device Evacuates State Building (Oregon, another Briefcase)

SALEM, Ore. -- A stolen briefcase left in a Salem parking lot attracted plenty of attention Tuesday morning, forcing the partial evacuation of an Oregon state government building.......

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[liberallyconservative]

OK, I'm digging through the dark recesses of my mind, but WAY back on Thread 1 or 2 was a link talking about terrorists in the Philippines (I think) using motorcycles. Off to google...

[angcat]

I know I was single once! Although we would always complain about the men in the area of course! Is Gambits still around at the Marriott in Tarrytown? I know the Rye Town Hilton had a bar that was also a pick up place you would like.