Amendment is no different than any other part of the
Constitution; subject to the same changing political,
cultural, and technological influences."
Justice Ginsberg pinko 
Posted on 05/27/2004 6:54:18 PM PDT by wagglebee
Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols met with World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines before he and Timothy McVeigh carried out their plot, investigative reporter Jayna Davis said Wednesday.
"Terry Nichols and Ramzi Yousef met personally in the Philippines on the island of Mindanao in the early 1990s to discuss, of all things, bombmaking," Davis told ABC Radio Network host John Batchelor.
On Wednesday, an Oklahoma jury returned a 161 count murder verdict against Nichols. He is expected to face the death penalty. But the bizarre Yousef-Nichols tie-in did not come up in the trial.
Davis said she didn't think Nichols would ever discuss his relationship with Yousef, who devised a plot known as Operation Bojinka, a kamikaze airliner hijacking plan that became the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks.
"Sources close to the defense have told me, and this comes from recorded conversations with his wife, Lana Padilla, that Terry Nichols is going to remain clammed up for the rest of his natural days on earth," Davis told Batchelor.
"He wants to protect his son Joshua from any retaliation," she added. Filipino police informant, Edwin Angeles, who first detailed meetings between Yousef and Nichols, was assassinated in 1998.
Yousef's partner in the Bojinka plot, Abdul Hakim Murad, was apprehended by Filipino police in 1994 and taken to New York to stand trial. On the morning of the OKC bombing, Murad summoned his jailers to tell them he and Yousef were connected to the crime. Later that day Murad gave the FBI a written confession.
Just months before his own June 2001 execution for the crime, Timothy McVeigh referred to both Yousef and Osama bin Laden in a letter to Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby.
"Collateral Damage? As an American news junkie; a military man; and a Gulf War veteran, where do they think I learned that? (It sure as hell wasn't Osama Bin Laden!)," he wrote in April 2001.
In the next sentence, McVeigh mentioned Yousef.
"For all else, I would refer you to my enclosed paper 'Hypocrisy,' and to Ramzi Yousef's statement to the court just prior to his sentencing. I filter all labels and insults thusly."
In the Jan. 8, 1998, court statement to which McVeigh referred, Yousef proclaimed, "Yes, I am a terrorist and proud of it as long as it is against the U.S. government," before being sentenced to 240 years in jail.
His two replies to me were more than enough clarification for me. I've got my polygraph on the 7th now, had to postpone it because of work sched. conflicts, and that puts my psych off 'til July unfortanately, so it looks like the earliest I'll be in the academy (assuming all goes well/knocking on a big ole 2x4) is Sept..
I have never heard anyone praise Nichols and McVeigh. Nor would I let it pass unchallenged.
What sort of people do you hang out with that you have heard this, hmmmm?
Because I'm a conservative and I believe conservatives have a special obligation to let everyone know that bombing Federal Buildings is not a tenant of the conservative philosophy.
I doubt anyone here has ever been to a meeting where Nichols and Mcveigh were praised unless it were a room full of DNC stategists plotting Clinton's comeback. Are you one of them?
Bite me ya POS ya had your chance to own up to your own pile of crap ya spewed here. I hit the abuse button on yer trollin DU ass. My last to ya loser.
That's good. By making that statement you might have influenced some others to speak up if they ever hear someone defending what Nichols and McVeigh did.
Stay Safe !
Justice Ginsberg pinko
Evil village idiot flame baiter?
"asbestos head"?
Do you denounce your former position toward NAMBLA or not?
(One idiotic non sequitor deserves another.)
Damn! I guess I just don't get it. I thought I was an 'average' firearm enthusiast who understood the meaning of "shall not be infringed". The RKBA referred to the state-of-the-art firearms of its day, in the hands of competent citizens. I am denied even the state-of-the-art small arms of my day. (We are not taliking ICBMs here, just rifles and pistols.)
Infringed has not changed in meaning.
I do not advocate the murder of anyone, especially women and children. Funny how many who would take the right to own a specific rifle from me advocate the murder of babies in the womb.
The Constitution was set down (especially when taken in historical context) in plain language. I don't worship it, but I do understand that it was intended to frame out a Government, which properly constrained by the terms of the document, would lessen the likelihood of the concentration of power and the tyranny which would be the result. Human nature hasn't changed.
Some changes have been added as amendments. That is the process by which the framework is changed, one which is intentionally slow, unwieldy, and requires an overwhelming majority in favor.
With this 'living document which needs to be reinterpreted' crap do we deny ourselves the absolute framework which the founders intended to safeguard our liberty. Thus begins the slide toward the abyss.
You, sir, are an idiot... and probably a Troll.
I will go on record condemning the terrorists who bombed the Murrah Building... however this thread is about determining just exactly WHO, in addition to Nichols and McVeigh, those terrorists are.
The evidence is pointing to a conspiracy of Arab terrorists with some American Benedict Arnolds. McVeigh even published a apologia in which he railed about American Foreign Policy vis-a-vis Iraq and Islamic countries... not the Waco debacle... not the Second Amendment.
McVeigh's and Nichols' involvement in the Murrah Building's destruction and the murder of 168 men, women and children and the maiming of many others was NOT about their supporting the Second Amendment to the Constitution. It is becoming more and more apparent that the Murrah Building was destroyed by the ENEMIES of our Constitution and the Second Amendment!
Okay... but watch carefully, because I'm only going to do this once:
< < Fire_eye dons gas mask, body armor, and digs deep slit trench... > >
The following
"The average gun enthusiast understands that the 2nd Amendment is no different than any other part of the Constitution; subject to the same changing political, cultural, and technological influences."
needs to be restated as follows:
< < Fire_eye eyes the slit trench calculatingly... > >
"It's A Living, Breathing Document"
< < Fire_eye DIVES for the slit trench, laughing insanely, one microsecond ahead of the incoming wall of flying lead, mortar rounds, rockets, artillery rounds, and a Frenchman lobbed by a trebuchet which completely disintegrates "bayourod" into his/her/its component atoms... > >
(WELL... he ASKED...)
And a war on terror wouldn't have exactly fit into his plans to be the great middle east peace maker for that pulitzer prize he tried to con everyone into winning.
McVeigh and Nichols were not 2nd amendment worshippers. Give it up.
"And maybe in the future when you're at a meeting and hear someone praising Nichols and McVeigh "
Are you accusing several people here, with no reason, as frequenting places that hold crowds who praise the likes of those two? If so, you're over the line, a place you seem to enjoy. People who aren't used to your "demeanor" might be offended. You don't intend to be OFFENSIVE, now do you, bayourod?
Man. Just like the JFK murder, we'll never know all the real facts, details of this .....
Jayna Davis: OKC and WTC Bombers Met in Philippines
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