Posted on 05/26/2004 2:17:56 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Certainly there are those within Islam who do not subscribe to the atrocities I am about to discuss, but their peaceful practice of Islam doesn't make it a peaceful religion. A peaceful religion is similar to that of Richard Gere and his Buddhist brethren.
Professor Moshe Sharon of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem writes:
Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world ... Judaism speaks about national salvation – namely that at the end of the story, when the world becomes a better place, Israel will be in its own land, ruled by its own king and serving God. Christianity speaks about the idea that every single person in the world can be saved from his sins, while Islam speaks about ruling the world ... quoting a verse in English ... 'Allah sent Mohammed with the true religion so that it should rule over all the religions.' The idea, then, is not that the whole world would become a Muslim world at this time, but that the whole world would be subdued under the rule of Islam ... Wherever you have Islam, you will have war. It grows out of the attitude of Islamic civilization.
Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.
This includes Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Indonesia, all of the Emirates, Sudan, Philippines, India, Libya, Algeria, Malaysia, Spain, Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Tunisia, Jordan and, finally, what they call the "occupied territory" – Israel. Louis Farrakhan is the face of Islam in America. Is his message one of peace?
According to a recent story in WorldNetDaily, "A British Muslim convert characterized an alleged mission to bomb the Israeli embassy in Australia as his obligation to Allah to perform jihad ..." The man went on to say, "As Muslims we are obligated to perform jihad to uphold the laws of Allah, the truth on his earth."
There have been Baptists calling for Hollywood to produce programming fit for family consumption – but I cannot point to Baptists calling for Hollywood to be destroyed because it is comprised of Jews and infidels.
There exist doctrinal differences between Wesleyans, Nazarenes and charismatics – most notably on the subject of glossolalia – but I have never heard these groups refer to one another as infidels or call for annihilation. But true followers of Islam cannot make that claim.
According to Dr. Mark Gabriel ("Islam and Terrorism"), "There are 114 verses in the Quran that speak of love, forgiveness and peace (Meccan verses). All are abrogated by Sudah 9:5, known as 'The Verse of The Sword,' which came later in Muhammad's life (Medina):
Find and slay the pagans [non-Muslims] wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent [convert to Islam], and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, them open up a way for them: for Allah is oft forgiving, most merciful ...
– Surah 9:5
I cannot think of any practicing Catholics I know who would be overjoyed if their daughter married an unrepentant atheist. But I am unwaveringly confident that their priest would not call for her to be stabbed or axed to death for having brought dishonor to the family. Yet, as WorldNetDaily reported in April, that is exactly what a Muslim Jordanian man did to his 8-months pregnant sister. And a Muslim Kurd murdered his 16-year-old daughter for starting a relationship with a Lebanese Christian boy in September 2003.
WND further reported "an anthropologist's study said dozens and probably hundreds of brutal 'honor killings' of Palestinian women and girls ... annually go unreported." Such occurrences have taken place in the United States. Some may try to dismiss or argue away these examples as anecdotal, but they are anything but.
The recent beheading of Nick Berg sickened us, but this act was practiced and sanctioned by Muhammad himself.
In an article published by Barnabas Fund on May 14, "Hundreds of Christians die in bloody massacres in Kano," the Christian Association of Nigeria reported Muslim rioters had murdered 600-plus Christians and burned 12 Christian churches in one night. Pregnant women were "ripped open and their bodies burned."
In Jersey City and Newark, N.J., it wasn't Mennonites or Methodists who celebrated in the streets as 3,000-plus Americans (Muslims included) were murdered.
Every morning of every day we read and hear of atrocities committed by fanatical Muslims. Christians are commonly politicized as being hardcore and fanatical; but decapitation is not Christian theology.
Many Muslims in this country may be peaceful, but apart from the radical activities of groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, I've not heard a cacophony of their voices. But we should. After all it wasn't Mormons standing on a bridge in Fallujah shouting Allahu Akbar (God is great) while the remains of innocent mutilated Americans burned.
Excuse me this was the old testament. Christianity is best described by the new testament. Where love of God and fellow man is emphasized. Since one must accept God in order to be a Christian, one can not be forced...yes I know about the inquisition etc. Christ did not teach the value of forced conversion but rather gentle persuasion. The koran calls for the murder of infidels. It's different. Also, every war (including Clinton's stupid war in Bosnia where we help Muslim savages) involved radical Islam.
I assume you mean some of the much-hyped events of the Middle Ages such as the Inquisition and Crusades. You would be suprised to learn I'm sure that what you think you know about those events is largely fictious
There is some very good actual history here
On the Crusades:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm
On the Inquistion:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08026a.htm
Someone spoke of burning alive, the correct term is Holocaust, and here's what it actually means:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07396b.htm
I don't blame you for being ignorant. I came up in the same secular humanist public school system. I was fed the same relativistic crap that Islam, Judiasm and Christianity are all the same. However it's time to snap out of it and wake up to the true nature of our enemy.
Oh, you think the video was bad?? Read the book, it'll creep you out!
A misguided individual can kill in the name of Christ, his Mother, his wife or anyone really, but that doesn't mean he has permission to kill. Christ did not call for us to kill non-believers. He called upon us to try to save them ...if we could.
Saying that Nazi Germany was a Christian nation tells me what little you know about Christianity and Nazi Germany. Hitler was an occultist and the religion of the Nazi party was deification of the state. Read Mein Kamph.
The other's I'll have to look up admittedly, but I've never heard of priests weilding guns and gernades
In any case, events such as these would be in direct contradiction to biblical teachings, not in accordance with them. It is analogous the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea - calling it democratic and a republic doesn't make it so lol.
I would just like to give my point of view on this. I am a Jew living in a Muslim country (Morocco). I have lived in Europe and studied 6 years in the States and I have chosen to come back to Morocco.
I go without any problem to the synagogue twice a week and for all religious holidays. My three daughters have Jewish, Christian and Muslim friends, like myself. We have social Jewish clubs, a Jewish museum and at least 12 synagogues that I know of in Casablanca. All this just to tell you that being surrounded by a Muslim and Arab culture, I think I can give you an educated point of view. Morocco, like most of other Muslim countries is in the middle of a battle against a minority of barbaric, uneducated terrorists hiding behind their religiousness to promote their hatred of all.
A year ago, 5 suicide bomb attacks took place in Casablanca. The first victims were Muslims. The country was the victim. Every time a Moroccan terrorist is taking part in an attack around the world, the whole country suffers, like it did after the Madrid bombings. The Muslims who are my friends, who I work with certainly don't agree with me about what is happening in Israel or in Iraq for example, but we are able to have constructive discussions and not try to kill each other.
I can genuinely say that I feel a lot of tolerance here. There certainly are extremists here, but like everywhere.
To conclude: A Jewish school near Montreal Canada where some little cousins of mine go to was firebombed during Passover. It was the first time that such a terrible thing had happened there. The perps were arrested last week. They were from Lebanese origin. But Christians...
The difference is the new testament does not call for the murder of non-Christians. The koran does call for the murder of non-Muslims. The old testament was for the Jewish people during a certain time...the New Testament fulfilled the law. Christians eat pork; we mix meat and dairy. We no longer follow the old testament laws. I don't care what some misguided Christians did-God did not give them permission in the Bible. As for Bosnia, after watching Muslims laughing as innocent men are murdered and their bodies burned...I can't say I blame the Orthodox Christians. The know who their enemies are and so do I. Islam is a violent religion/really a political movement or even a fake religion. Check out any war in the world, and you will note Muslims are involved-creating murder and mayham. I don't believe it is a minority view either.
I totally agree on that.
I've already posted a clarification about that, please refer to it.
Ah, but Jesus saved a woman accused of adultery - Let he who is without sin cast the first stone....Ancient Jewish law has nothing to do with modern Christian law.
Uhmmmmm, no. Christianity does not teach that.
Actually he write that Islam make good import to Germany, because it is of hard character and "strong".
Actually, it were ca. 40% in the last free election. But you´re right, the NSDAP never reached a majority in a free election. However, nobody could really imagine what would happen after appointing Hitler as a Chancellor, so it´s not the fault of Christians. Of course it was morally wrong to vote for Hitler, but I don´t think that the voters have committed a crime by voting for him or are responsible for what Hitler and the Nazis did afterwards.
I learned something the other day I would like to share:
For those who may be curious, I’ll digress a moment. The Third Commandment does not say: “Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” Not only is it beneath Yahweh to write such a trivial thing in stone, his name isn’t “the Lord.” A name can’t be “taken,” and “vain” means either egotistical as it relates to a person, or failed as it relates to an endeavor. In that the line was meaningless, Jews, and later Christians, falsely assumed that our Creator was telling us that they shouldn’t swear or say, “Yahweh.”
The Commandment as it was actually written in Hebrew says something that is vital to our very survival: “You shall not accept or advance in the name or character of Yahweh, your deity, anything that is deceptive or destructive.” Our failure to understand this Commandment and live by it is the reason Holy Wars are fought. Our tolerance of things that purport to be godly, but are instead false and destructive, is why Islam exists. It is why Muslim militants kill us. It is why the world is, and has been, in such a horrible mess.
Does anyone have any idea as to how this "religion" could be stripped of it's status and put where it belongs, in the cult category?
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