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How to Combat Jihad in America
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 5/26/04 | Lawrence Auster

Posted on 05/26/2004 1:55:24 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: NewRomeTacitus

1 I am not Oubai Mohammad Shahbandar
2 I am not a Muslim(not that that has anything to do with the price of tea in china)
3 "the Wahhabists are better Muslims than you are."
Right that's why the rest of the Islamic world are falling all over ehemselves to become just like them.
4 "Islam brooks no half-measures nor tolerates watering down."
The same can be said of any religion.


41 posted on 05/26/2004 9:12:31 PM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: Valin
"As a Muslim student at Arizona State University who abhors Wahhabism, I've been the victim of MSA's hate campaigns."

That can be read two ways and you chose the more obscure one (student who studies Islam). Sorry for relieving myself over your fortified oat rings.

"The same can be said of any religion"

Nothing to lose one's head over.

42 posted on 05/26/2004 9:38:08 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: mgist
1. We have an absolute right to defend our borders and to expel any non-citizen we desire, except for those covered under displomatic norms.
2. We can strip naturalized citizens of citizenship if they applied under false pretenses. Those active in seditious movements (ie Islamist ones) at the time of their application or processing should already lose their citizenship.

Mr. Auster is a Mesoconservative. Check out his blog at http://www.amnation.com/vfr .
He is not a Buchanan supporter.
43 posted on 05/26/2004 11:25:42 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: mgist

Wake up, the muslim mind set is a complete 180 from ours in regrads to government and personal rights. The major part of being Muslim is the belief in a theocracy form of government with no personal rights.

We have finally encountered the ultimate in diversity, one that can't be co-existed with.


44 posted on 05/26/2004 11:36:42 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: kattracks

bump for later


45 posted on 05/26/2004 11:49:58 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Will of God is Good! Not my will, not my will, not my will, but Thine be done!)
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To: gubamyster

BTTT


46 posted on 05/27/2004 1:20:53 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: kattracks

good stuff...Notice how all 7 of the terror suspects are Muslim...Will the local Muslim populace help authorities in rooting these 7 out if they are indeed, within their community? They must be more pro-active...or face camps/deportation if we are attacked.


47 posted on 05/27/2004 4:34:03 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez
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To: FITZ
That's why it should be banned...

Banning the head covering constitutes a violaton of the free exercise clause of the First Amendment.

48 posted on 05/27/2004 4:47:44 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Westbrook; kattracks; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; risk; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; Texas Eagle; nuconvert; ...

I hope this gets to everyone who has posted to this thread.

I cannot believe some of what I am reading here. Some of you have it, but some of you talk about muslims and the terror network like they are Barney and Oppie. Don't you understand, they want to kill you! They would love nothing better than to totally disrupt our way of life within the borders of this country.

There is a fair sized muslim community here, I hope that I know each and everyone of them by sight and description of their cars so I can tell if something "strange" is happening. Most of them are physicians. What a way to strike terror into the heart of mid-america then have them suddenly start killing off patients or .......

Am I paranoid? You bet I am.

Am I off my meds? Probably am.

Am I safe? I honestly do not know.

I do know that I have total situational awareness of what is happening, and I sure do not like what I see.


49 posted on 05/27/2004 5:19:39 AM PDT by 30-06 Springfield (Tell It Like It Is!)
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To: Westbrook

Not so much religion --- but it's like banning the swastika and as far as I know people can also wear those. I'm not sure. The only thing the veil has nothing to do with freedom in this case because what happens to the women who try not to use it.


50 posted on 05/27/2004 5:21:59 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Westbrook
And banning polygamy would constitute a violation of the free exercise of religion --- or banning the buying and selling of women to the harem masters. What if there was a religion where cannibalism or human sacrifice was a part of their religious services? The world has known those religions.

It would be better in the first place if we didn't bring in immigrants whose beliefs are incompatible with the Constitution.

51 posted on 05/27/2004 5:31:55 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: F14 Pilot
The Qur'an says the following:

Seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly. (Sura 4:90)

Fight them until Islam reigns supreme. (Sura 2:193)

Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers. (Sura 8:12)

Allah threatens the Muslim who does not make war on the "unbelievers" with death. (Sura 9:39)

How is a "moderate" Muslim supposed to deal with this?

52 posted on 05/27/2004 5:37:51 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: sauropod

Lets make it clear a bit!
LoL, there are 2 types of Muslims.

1- radical
2- non-radical

I hate the radical part as you do but I know one thing about the 2nd type which you might not know.

2nd type of Muslims don't read Koran or say their prayers.


53 posted on 05/27/2004 5:42:04 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: rmlew
ok. Define "Mesoconservative."

I can make an educated guess, but I'd like a definition.

54 posted on 05/27/2004 5:43:30 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: F14 Pilot
re: 2- non-radical Muslims.

I have a friend that is Palestinian. I believe she is also a Muslim. She epitomizes what is meant by the term "moderate Muslim." She is a convenience store owner. I have not broached this topic with her, but I suspect she reads the Qur'an.

55 posted on 05/27/2004 5:46:40 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: F14 Pilot
Lets make it clear a bit!
LoL, there are 2 types of Muslims.

1- radical
2- non-radical

I hate the radical part as you do but I know one thing about the 2nd type which you might not know.

2nd type of Muslims don't read Koran or say their prayers.

I would be willing to post a little wager that "non-radical" would turn "radical" in the bat of an eyelash if the "radical" muslims start coming to power. They know which way the wind is blowing and exactly how to set their sails.

56 posted on 05/27/2004 5:47:45 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: kattracks

Even if a nuclear bomb went off in New York city I don't think Americans would have the will do so what the author suggests.


57 posted on 05/27/2004 5:49:40 AM PDT by FightThePower!
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To: FITZ
And banning polygamy would constitute a violation of the free exercise of religion --- or banning the buying and selling of women to the harem masters. What if there was a religion where cannibalism or human sacrifice was a part of their religious services? The world has known those religions.

Argumentem ad absurdem.

Unlike the items in your list, the wearing of a head scarf for religious purposes presents no societal threat.

The wearing of a garment for religious purposes does not constitute sociopathic behavior.

Have you ever heard of Anabaptist Christians, such as Mennonites or Amish?

Their womenfolk wear head coverings ranging from bonnets to head scarves, depending on the particular sect. They are an eminently peaceful people.

Would you force them to break the law you propose to ban one of their religious practices?

It wouldn't be the first time that the Amish were punished for disobeying an unconstitutional law.

The recognition of our right to educate our children at home was due to the efforts of an Amishman in Ohio v. Yoder. Yoder stood his ground in face of imprisonment and the threat of loss of his children to the state.

He prevailed, and we are all the richer for it.

58 posted on 05/27/2004 5:49:51 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: sauropod; nuconvert; Valin; AdmSmith; Luis Gonzalez

Koran is a book and you can read it too.
The important point is that Radicalists follow/obey what that damned book says but Non-Radicals DO NOT!

We live in 21st Century and the things in that book doesnt match the requirements Muslims have!


59 posted on 05/27/2004 5:51:03 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
We live in 21st Century and the things in that book doesnt match the requirements Muslims have!

Sort of like the constitution being a "living" document that needs to have meanings changed every few years! I don't think so!

60 posted on 05/27/2004 5:54:20 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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