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John Rhys-Davies slams Michael Moore (and France!)
MSNBC ^ | May 18, 2004 | Joe Scarborough

Posted on 05/19/2004 11:48:48 AM PDT by Gelato

SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY, May 18th

[snip]

JOE SCARBOROUGH:  Michael Moore is the toast of the town at the Cannes Film Festival this week.  According to the BBC, Moore‘s anti-war flick may be the odds-on favorite to win the top prize, the first time for a so-called documentary since 1956.  It seems the French have fallen in love with Michael Moore.  But how will American audiences react to this controversial film? 

With me now is John Rhys-Davies.  He‘s, of course, an actor from the blockbuster trilogy “The Lord of the Rings.”  We also have Dana Kennedy.  She‘s MSNBC entertainment editor.  And back with me again is Penn and Teller‘s Penn Jillette. 

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SCARBOROUGH:  John Rhys-Davies, what do you think about Michael Moore being praised AT Cannes, AS it appears that they‘re probably going to name him the top filmmaker for this year‘s ceremonies? 

JOHN RHYS-DAVIES, ACTOR:  Well, you see, the French have a lot of problems internally.  And the one unifying factor that they can find in their society is to bash America.

So don‘t be surprised by anything the French do.  Their society is so troubled and it‘s about 24, 25 years away from major civil war.  So you can discount most of what they do.

SCARBOROUGH:  Well, what does it—how does it make you feel as an actor to have this guy coming in—you can‘t even call it a documentary, if you look at what he did with “Bowling for Columbine”—and actually having them elevate this sort of class clown above all the other producers, all the other actors, all the other screenwriters from all over the world just to make a political statement that bashes America? 

RHYS-DAVIES:  Well, the truth of the matter is there is no—virtue is never rewarded in the world anyway.  You must know that.  So don‘t be naive enough to expect it to be. 

He has made a documentary party political board broadcast for his political viewpoint.  That‘s perfectly fair and perfectly legitimate.  My beef with him would be this, that, when you knock America, you run a real danger that you will change the perception of the world that the world has of America.  Right at the moment, the Americans are doing something very, very important and I believe very virtuous.

The notion that we could take Iraq, for instance, which has a strong middle class, and turn it right in the middle of Arabia and turn it into a functioning democratic capitalist society and use that to galvanize the rest of the Arab world out of the 13th century is a virtuous vision.  And you could disagree with the tactics of it or not, but the vision is admirable.  And not to see that is deplorable.

Moore is making a fortune out of his anti-Americanism.  And I don‘t blame the guy for making a buck, but he‘s not serious.

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH:  He certainly is not serious.  And I want to read you what “The Hollywood Reporter” said.  They‘re not backing the movie again.  And this is their review—quote—“In ‘Fahrenheit 9/11,‘ Michael Moore drops any pretense that he is a documentarian to pull together from many sources an angry polemic against the president, the Bush family and the administration‘s foreign policy.”

Penn Jillette, is this nothing more than a paid political advertisement for the Democratic Party in America? 

JILLETTE:  Yes, I think that it might be that. 

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JILLETTE: So if I have a conspiracy to go with, I‘m going to go with Michael Moore is just trying to make Bush look really, really good. 

SCARBOROUGH:  All right, we‘ll have to leave it there.  Penn Jillette, like to thank you, John Rhys-Davies and Dana Kennedy for being with us. 

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(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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To: Gelato; Cyrano; shaggy eel
God bless John Rhys-Davis.

I always thought that guy had some class!

81 posted on 05/19/2004 3:55:45 PM PDT by Terriergal ("arise...kill...eat." Acts 10:13)
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To: Hildy
Penn and Teller have this new show on HBO. The first episode was just a slap at PETA, showing how hypocritical and dangerous they really are. And, of course, who they really are. It was great.

"Penn & Teller : Bullsh*t", on Showtime... Yes, great show. This is their second season. They recently did a great show that completely debunked the global warming theory.

82 posted on 05/19/2004 4:27:09 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: hchutch; xrp

Penn and Teller have a long history of attacking and refuting nonsense coming from all corners, and it's no surprise to me that Penn would be so strongly critical of Moore. He's a freethinker in the truest sense of the word.


83 posted on 05/19/2004 4:37:15 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: Gelato
Oh darn... I missed John Rhys-Davis last night?! Shoot, and I watch Scarborough just about every night. :(

Thanks so much for posting this transcript, Gelato. God bless John Rhys-Davis!

84 posted on 05/19/2004 4:40:17 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: Deb; RaceBannon; Dutchy

Gimli ping!


85 posted on 05/19/2004 4:42:50 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: AngieGOP

they can keep her


86 posted on 05/19/2004 4:45:09 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: xcullen

could you post a link to the article referring to lara flynn boyle?


87 posted on 05/19/2004 4:53:04 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space reserved for Sean Hannity to usurp:-))
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To: Gelato

Penn Jillette is a libertarian and definitely not a socialist... His new show on Showtime has blasted PETA,
whacko-environmentalists, junk-science and anti-globalists


88 posted on 05/19/2004 5:24:06 PM PDT by hford02 ((Hold your nose and pull the lever on the right))
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To: hford02

and they debunk those things in ways that put Rush and Hannity to shame. I include them in with that guy from 20/20 Joh Stoddel??? He is of the same Libertarian ilk. Conservatives of course have their own bullsh*t but they have less of it then the Left does.


89 posted on 05/19/2004 6:35:04 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: StoneColdGOP

"Bring your pretty face into my axe!"


90 posted on 05/19/2004 6:51:42 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: Gelato
JILLETTE: ... I‘m carny trash. (He's half-right; I don't know about the 'carny' part though) My background is carnival.  And when you compare Michael Moore to P.T. Barnum, I get very upset. ... Barnum never went into politics.  He did all of his hokum based on just show business.

The loud moron is wrong - Barnum was elected the Republican mayor of Bridgeport connecticut on April 12, 1875. (also was elected to State office in CT)

The etext version of Joel Benton's 1891 Barnum biography - EXCELLENT!

91 posted on 05/19/2004 8:40:47 PM PDT by solitas (maybe we SHOULD leave Iraq; targeting ALL the hospitals & schools as we depart: scorched earth.)
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To: nutmeg

ping - for your 'collection'. :D


92 posted on 05/19/2004 8:42:48 PM PDT by solitas (maybe we SHOULD leave Iraq; targeting ALL the hospitals & schools as we depart: scorched earth.)
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To: Destro

John Stossel.


93 posted on 05/19/2004 8:45:56 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: Bullish

I can't type with a scotch or two in me - thanks.


94 posted on 05/19/2004 8:48:44 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: sam_whiskey
I like Sam Elliot-always have. But I can't understand why Elliot and Gary Oldman-both admitted Republicans-were in that putrid piece of liberal propaganda "The Contender". Guess they were well-compensated...

I remember reading some articles that the movie was changed significantly before it was released. It went from a "perils of politics" story to a "evil conservatives bashing an innocent democrat" story. I remember reading a few interviews with Oldman where he was quoted as being furious about the changes.
95 posted on 05/19/2004 9:13:15 PM PDT by Thoro (Gridlocked government is better than active government.)
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To: Gelato

Wow. I didn't even know that Jeffrey Lyons was still around. I used to watch him all of the time on WPIX ( NYC ) back in the early eighties. If he said avoid a movie, that was the one I would go see and have a good time. The ones he recommended sucked.


96 posted on 05/20/2004 4:47:10 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: aft_lizard

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37869-2004May18.html


It is in the May 19 Reliable Source under "Squibs"


97 posted on 05/21/2004 6:54:01 AM PDT by xcullen (DC Conservative)
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