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Smoking ban a cancer on business, bar owners say
NorwichBulletin.com ^ | 4-29-04 | JAMES WALKER

Posted on 04/29/2004 11:53:58 AM PDT by SheLion

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:58:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MONTVILLE -- For 45 years, John and Alice Longo laughed and joked with their regular customers while they wiped down the bar and took lunch orders during the afternoon at A and J's Cafe on Route 32.

But when they were forced to remove the ashtrays from the tables and bar, suddenly the laughter quieted.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: addiction; antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; lawmakers; leatherskin; lungcance; maine; nicoaddicts; niconazis; professional; prohibitionists; pufflist; smellyclothes; smokingbans; stinkyfingers; taxes; theworldismyashtry; tobacco; yellowteeth

1 posted on 04/29/2004 11:54:03 AM PDT by SheLion
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2 posted on 04/29/2004 11:54:40 AM PDT by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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To: SheLion
Nothing new here. You don't hear the American Taliban decrying the human loss of employees lost jobs and owner's lower incomes.

The reason they don't cry is that the more alcohol vending establishments close, the happier they are.

Non smoking drinkers may be waking up to this phenomenon.

At least Austin TX had the guts to overthrow the ban.
3 posted on 04/29/2004 11:57:54 AM PDT by swarthyguy (NO PUBLIC SALES OF LIQUOR NEXT.)
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To: SheLion
But----but----smoking bans won't harm business according to the "experts".

Would they lie to us?
4 posted on 04/29/2004 11:59:00 AM PDT by Mears
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To: SheLion
just in from Los Angeles - I kid you not- there is a proposal before council to OUTLAW smoking in a vehicle if children are in the car. LAPD would also be given the right of forfeiture under this Smoke with Kids in Car Lose Your Car proposal. Reported yesterday KABC AM 790 8pm newscast.
5 posted on 04/29/2004 12:00:37 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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6 posted on 04/29/2004 12:01:06 PM PDT by martin_fierro ("I actually threw away my medals - before I didn't" -- J Effin' K)
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To: swarthyguy
Non smoking drinkers may be waking up to this phenomenon.

This non-smoking non-drinker is still p***ed at the continuing evisceration of property rights and rise of nanny-statism.

7 posted on 04/29/2004 12:02:12 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: SheLion
Man. Banning smoking in bars is really stupid business ....



8 posted on 04/29/2004 12:51:17 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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Bump
9 posted on 04/29/2004 12:57:18 PM PDT by Rocket1968 (Democrats will crash and burn in 2004.)
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To: Republicus2001
what I wonder is just who is going to enforce the beach smoking ban in santa moncia and LA city beaches??
10 posted on 04/29/2004 1:15:14 PM PDT by markman46
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To: markman46
good question - LA County is laying off sheriffs due to budget crunching and cutting loose the crooks because we no longer have enough room or guards to keep them - but smoking enforcement will be a priority especially with the NY police chief we now have in Lo Angeles - pot smoking at the beach of course will still be ok for medical purposes only...
11 posted on 04/29/2004 1:19:59 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: markman46
what I wonder is just who is going to enforce the beach smoking ban in santa moncia and LA city beaches??

I'm sure the fines will be sufficient to make it a fine source of self-sustaining revenue. Five citations per day will cover pay and benefits for the duputy. Less dangerous than a typical traffic stop.

12 posted on 04/29/2004 1:36:05 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
from what I understand, to smoke at the LA city beaches you either have to go to a parking lot or up on PCH which is not a very safe place to be. what are they going to do if someone just told the NO I will smoke any way?
13 posted on 04/29/2004 5:43:43 PM PDT by markman46
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To: Republicus2001
Calif. Bill Would Ban Smoking in Car with Kids
14 posted on 04/29/2004 7:29:14 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SheLion
We know these things, we document these things, we try to get the word out about these things.

What more can we do?

15 posted on 04/29/2004 7:30:19 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: markman46
you could smoke in the water
16 posted on 05/03/2004 10:14:41 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Republicus2001
don't know, i'll bet not cause they don't want the buts
on the sand or near the water.
17 posted on 05/03/2004 10:56:15 AM PDT by markman46
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