Kerry spoke of meeting negotiators on Vietnam - Claimed US Was "Murdering" Vietnamese

Boston Globe ^ | 3/25/04 | Michael Kranish and Patrick Healy

[kattracks]

WASHINGTON -- In a question-and-answer session before a Senate committee in 1971, John F. Kerry, who was a leading antiwar activist at the time, asserted that 200,000 Vietnamese per year were being "murdered by the United States of America" and said he had gone to the Paris and "talked with both delegations at the peace talks" and met with communist representatives.

[VadeRetro]

The "People's" Peace Treaty

[Taxman]

One begins to wonder how a man (or woman) can live his/her entire life based on intentional lies, deceit and distortions. What astonishes is that he has based his entire adult life doing so, with some success (he is, you know, a US Senator).
His string must end this year.

Now is the time!

Lets send Hanoi John Effing Kerry to the funny farm -- which is surely where he will end up when he is soundly defeated in November -- an insane footnote in the history books!

[stainlessbanner]

bump

[Hon]

I have to say that it is gratifying that someone has finally picked up this story, which I have been posting and sending around for several weeks now.

Kerry's Group Met With The Viet Cong In Paris In 1971
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1081292/posts

Kerry Met With Viet Cong And North Vietnamese In Paris In 1971
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091943/posts

Would Kerry Insist We Accept Al Qaeda's Terms Like He Insisted We Accept The Vietcong's?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097828/posts

Kerry's Testimony Before The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, April 22, 1971 - Entire Transcript
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097982/posts

Kerry's Veteran Organizer Joe Bangert Sang For The Enemy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092856/posts

Though I have to say that the BG seems to be trying to put the most positive spin as possible upon his meeting with the enemy.

[kabar]

I served as a naval officer (1965-72). Although I had a regular commission, the reserve rules at the time, as I recall, required a total commitment of 6 years. Many reserve officers I served with did three years active and three years inactive.

My point about Kerry is that there is a gap of two years according to his bio. I assume since he went through OCS, he had a reserve commission, which obligated him for a total of 6 years. I don't understand the gap. If you believe that he was still in the Reserves from 1970-2, as I tend to believe as well, why does Kerry list his service as 1966-70 Active and 1972-78 Reserves? I think he is trying to cover the fact that he was still in the USNR while participating in his antiwar activities and negotiating with the enemy in Paris. Not to put too fine a point on it, Kerry has intentionally listed his service this way to deceive us.

Moreover, I am wondering why he served six years from 1972. I would like to know if he was in the active or inactive reserves during that time. I would also bet that he went to law school on the GI Bill.

[kabar]

I served as a naval officer (1965-72). Although I had a regular commission, the reserve rules at the time, as I recall, required a total commitment of 6 years. Many reserve officers I served with did three years active and three years inactive.

My point about Kerry is that there is a gap of two years according to his bio. I assume since he went through OCS, he had a reserve commission, which obligated him for a total of 6 years. I don't understand the gap. If you believe that he was still in the Reserves from 1970-2, as I tend to believe as well, why does Kerry list his service as 1966-70 Active and 1972-78 Reserves? I think he is trying to cover the fact that he was still in the USNR while participating in his antiwar activities and negotiating with the enemy in Paris. Not to put too fine a point on it, Kerry has intentionally listed his service this way to deceive us.

Moreover, I am wondering why he served six years from 1972. I would like to know if he was in the active or inactive reserves during that time. I would also bet that he went to law school on the GI Bill.

[MeekOneGOP]

Kerry. Springtime in Paris. 'Peace' ...

cough! cough! cough! ...

[Ann Archy]

Let's start a petition: RELEASE YOUR MILITARY RECORDS, SENATOR KERRY!!

[cav68]

Kerry was and is a full featured traitor who would sell out his country for nothing.


Its not would the word is DID Sell Out his Country

[rwfromkansas]

"Asked about the appropriateness of Kerry's saying that the United States had "murdered" 200,000 Vietnamese annually when the United States was at war, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said "Senator Kerry used a word he deems inappropriate."

Meehan said Kerry "never suggested or believed and absolutely rejects the idea that the word applied to service of the American soldiers in Vietnam." Meehan then declined to say to whom Kerry was referring when he said that the United States had murdered the Vietnamese; Kerry declined to be interviewed about the matter."

Isn't that special. So, who committed the atrocities Mr. Kerry? In past testimony you said it was your fellow soldiers. Now you are saying they didn't kill anybody....well, who the hell did?

[rwfromkansas]

Where is the meeting picture?

[weegee]

Meehan said Kerry "never suggested or believed and absolutely rejects the idea that the word applied to service of the American soldiers in Vietnam." Meehan then declined to say to whom Kerry was referring when he said that the United States had murdered the Vietnamese; Kerry declined to be interviewed about the matter.

John Kerry most definitely was suggesting US troops. Here he recanted such language in a 2001 interview with Tim Russert:

Kerry speaks about HIS War Crimes

MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?

KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions [snip]

MR. RUSSERT: Thirty years later, you stand by that?

SEN. KERRY: I don't stand by the genocide. I think those were the words of an angry young man. We did not try to do that.

Since John Kerry lied publicly, often, and even under oath during war time in a manner designed to weaken morale at home and abroad and in aid and comfort of the enemy he IS a traitor to America.

[weegee]

Correct article link HERE:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1077677/posts

(it was a bad cut and paste, it failed to "copy" the link)

[devolve]

[syriacus]

Kerry did not go to Paris with the intention of meeting with participants in the peace talks or involving himself in the negotiations,

..but once Kerry got to Paris,

• did someone force Kerry to meet with the negotiators?
• Who let Kerry in, to meet with the negotiators?
• What did he intend to say to the negotiators?

What did John Kerry know and when did he know it?

[syriacus]

That policy resulted in one of the highest civilian casualty rate in the history of war.

Kerry sure can't make up his mind if he liked the South Vietnamese.

First he says he is mad that the US government made him kill Vietnamese civilians.

Then Kerry makes sure the US abandons a whole generation of the children of South Vietnam and their parents (who fought for freedom.)

Now Kerry cares about civilian deaths again.

[PhilDragoo]

Kerry went to Ho Chi Minh City (pictured beneath bust of Groucho Marx demonstrating Swan Fingers Obfuscate Feng Shui for Jimmy Carter, at right in Sgt. Pepper costume).

His intention was to expedite normalization so his cousin Forbes (John Forbes Kuklafrananollie) could make 900 million smackaroos on Vietnamese real estate.

To which end Dances With Reds deep-sixed any and all reports of MIA-POWs sighted in-country.

After all, he explained, why derail some real profit for a bunch of murderers and rapists.

KERRY ~ 2004
because America must be crushed beneath the sandal of Islamofascism

[syriacus]

I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties, and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator [Eugene] McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera."

Very, very Clintonian. He gets credit for being a "take-charge" guy, if things turn out well. He can't be blamed, if they turn out badly.

Note to Kerry:
Eugene McCarthy was a Senator, not a private individual, and you were not a Senator.

[syriacus]

Since some may still be getting "server errors" like I am, here are alternate links for folks to use, in order to get your threads.

Kerry's Group Met With The Viet Cong In Paris In 1971
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/1081292/posts

Kerry Met With Viet Cong And North Vietnamese In Paris In 1971
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/1091943/posts

Would Kerry Insist We Accept Al Qaeda's Terms Like He Insisted We Accept The Vietcong's?
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/1097828/posts

Kerry's Testimony Before The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, April 22, 1971 - Entire Transcript
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/1097982/posts


Kerry's Veteran Organizer Joe Bangert Sang For The Enemy
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/1092856/posts

[NYC GOP Chick]

This man is more dangerous, to this country, than Bill and Hillary Clinton!!!

I suspect there's a serious professional rivlary among the 3 -- to vie for who's the most dangerous threat to the U.S.