MEL GIBSON: 'HAVING DOUBTS' ABOUT BUSH

Drudge ^

[sonsofliberty2000]

In a wide-ranging hour-long interview with FOXNEWSABCRADIO's Sean Hannity, PASSION OF THE CHRIST director Mel Gibson says he now has 'doubts' about President Bush and re-election... MORE... In the interview, set to air on Tuesday , Gibson says of Bush: 'I am having doubts, of late. It mainly has to do with the weapons [of mass destruction] claims'... MORE...

[Salvation]

Gibson, a traditionalist Catholic would NOT vote for Kerry (a CINO, Catholic in Name Only) .

[alnick]

Freepers are just peeved because he doesn't follow their party line.

Oh bull. I've read to this point and have seen very few posts of people who have changed their minds about Gibson. On this topic "Freepers" will have diverse opinions.

[Recovering_Democrat]

I believe I heard Norah O'Donnell say that Bush planned to address the nation on the anniversary of OIF and try to make OIF a big positive on Bush's resume in the minds of voters

OIF? Define please? :)

[alnick]

You have a vivid imagination.

[Max7]

RE: your posting number 259 - EXCELLENT and illuminating to see it all laid out again for everyone to see. Whether or not all your information is absolutely accurate I would not be able to say at first reading, but it sure looks like it is. In any case, I appreciate the time you took to write this out. Very well written and informative. Thank you.

[Ohioan]

My reference to the Rove/Tancredo incident is from numerous posts at Free Republic on the subject. I do not have any other specific reference at this time, although I have seen the remark quoted elsewhere, as well. Is Rove denying that he told Tancredo to stay away from the White House? If he has specifically denied that widely quoted statement, tell me where, and I will not use that in my attacks on Rove's lack of analytic ability.

I do not want to be unfair to Rove; certainly not bear false witness, if those reports are in fact in error. My conviction that Rove is incompetent is not based upon that statement. Although, I must tell you, that even if Rove denies it, his position on immigration remains obvious in the President's continued avoidance of the real kernel of the issue.

As for your little lecture on the "real world:" In the real world, people do not put all their eggs in the one basket represented by a Republican Party that has backtracked on its own platforms in recent years; will not stand up for rooted Americans as opposed to mankind in general; will not keep within a reasonable budget; will not adhere to the "strict construction" of the Constitution promised in 2000; and embarks on a redo of the cruel and despicable foreign policy of the Dean Rusk State Department, from the 1960s, as a studied insult to other countries, in trying to force them to accept "Democracy"-- a form of Government, which has never worked in any multi-ethnic country, without a dominant middle-class. (See Democracy In The Third World.)

America is a many generation long proposition. What you feel is essential today, is not what I feel is essential today. In the real world, any people who do not provide for tomorrow--for the continuity of their heritage, down through the generations--are doomed to a chaotic future. What is absent in the politics of both parties inside the Beltway today, is any affirmation of a fundamental belief in the American system, as the Founding Fathers vouchsafed it to us. Absent that affirmation, our choices may include the lesser of two evils, but please do not pontificate on that particular choice being dictated by reality. It most certainly is not. At best, it is one of three or four choices that Conservatives will be debating over the next 7 1/2 months.

William Flax

[cyncooper]

Ah, I couldn't help but give ya a little tweak.

It was spite, I'm sure of it.

:)

[Sprite518]

WOW Lazmataz I guess you know how to look at Users profiles? Gee you must be a genius! I do not know anyone else that knows what you know. I am sure you have a PHD. LMAO! I nominate you to be the useful idiots French Poodle moderator. LOL!

I really do not care how long a person has been a member. I just debate them on the issues when I see it. I don't have all the time in the world like you do to sit around, and debate over 100,000 members on the board like you do. When you get a real job kid, then come debate me. LOL!

[visualops]

He said much of that in the MTP interview. He, and others in the administration, have said all these things many many times. The problem is the media keeps harping on the same old crap, makes one forget this has already been gone over a hundred times.

[Robert_Paulson2]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098206/posts This is not a holy war

You and I disagree on this. Islam IS a religion of murder and terror, forced conversions, rape of women, forced female castration and abuse of women and children. NOT ONE islamic nation has supported either of President Bush's TWO national wars, against their extremist "brethren" and that is their continuing message to us, to this day.

It IS a religious war and one you and I are destined to lose if folks who know better don't wake up soon. It IS only about religion, THEIRS, and it is a religion that believes it is just to kill jews, christians and atheists who refuse to submit to allah,via their moon god cult.

The kkk thing you threw at me is a straw man.... as the KKK and their creed calls for murder and my christian creed does not ... that goes for the rest of the Church in general period. (Since YOU brought up the straw man KKK thingine, I don't know ANY kkk members who were blowing themselves up at train stations, just to ensure racial purity...)

I do not think one can honestly divorce Islam from acts of terror, or in general their supporting it worldwide. All such attempts to do so, in my opinion, are dishonest.

The only good muslim is the non-practicing one... the only difference in my view between the radical islamic and the moderate "practicing" muslim is that the radical one dresses his kids in a nail bomb vest, while the moderate one is holding the remote control, and paying muslim "charities" to buy case loads of nails and c4 to make more of them.

Muslims with very very very few exceptions, that I honestly have not heard myself, have demonstrated NO serious interest, in my view, of stopping the terror of islam to date. You say you know a few who are? I suggest they are lying. Bush should have never changed his wording about this "crusade" being named "Operation Infinite Justice." Politically Correct compromise, inducing a state of denial.

I do wish I could agree with you.

But I cannot. Except for the fact that a vote for kerry is a vote for osami. And that Bush still has my vote.

I will continue to insist that He needs to step up the rhetoric about the muslim terrorists. Because Islam is not peace, except for those who are now dead because of it's bloodthirsty hatred of Jews, Christians and other religious persuasions.

I will never agree with you that Islam is anything other than the enemy. I believe denial about this fact is the greatest threat to our safety on the face of the planet... Violence, Murder and Mayhem directed against all perceived as Infidels in one bloody unholy jihad after another... is the nature of islam as it exists in OUR generation.

And I am truly sorry you don't see that.

[alnick]

We have more people on here speculating about Freepers turning on Gibson than we have examples of it happening.

Interesting, isn't it?

[spectre]

I suspect you are correct :~)

sw

[Robert_Paulson2]

they need the code book section on the "cons" of conservatism.


neocon... new conservative
socon... social conservative
ficon... fiscal conservatives
ubercons... superconservatives, usually on one issue
paleocon... old conservative lines of thought

who am I forgetting?

[fml]

Why do I suspect that this thread will soon disappear? :-)

Boy, when your wrong, your really wrong.

[billbears]

Rereading some of the posts here I don't call it imagination. I call it a sad state of affairs as to what the Republican Party has become. A man who through one movie has possibly introduced an entire group of people unreachable in the past to Christ and even reintroduced Christians (in my case I know this to be true) to the sacrifice Christ committed for us is a bit higher on my list than some world leader. He's not a saint in any form but his criticism of Bush is an opinion he has a right to and one as a conservative would probably agree with

[longtermmemmory]

born in NY

[alnick]

I’m coming into the discussion late, and I haven’t read all the posts but this weapons of mass destruction issue is very peculiar to me, Saddam has already used WMD on his own people. This is a fact. What is so hard for people to understand? Is everyone that stupid?

I know. As Condi said yesterday, Saddam had the intent and he had the means and the ability to produce these weapons. Does anyone really believe that either Saddam or his offspring wouldn't have eventually had an aresenal of God knows what and used them... again? No one knows when, but it would have happened. Now it won't.

[alnick]

That's right, but most on this thread have either stated that Gibson is entitled to his opinion or pointed out that the teaser on Drudge is most likely taken out of context and will wait to find out the entirety of what Gibson actually said.

Gibson made a magnificent movie and has my deep respect for making it and standing up to the media and hollywood. Most people here, as evidenced by this thread, can agree with Gibson regarding his film and disagree with him on politics, if it even turns out that he said what Drudge's headline implies.

[truth_seeker]

"This is to be expected - he is from Australia, afterall.
Not exactly a hotbed of Patriotism and war."

You need to study up on some history, cuz you're flat wrong.

Fact: Australia is, at present, a good ally in the WOT.
Fact: Australia was our ally, in Vietnam.
Fact: Australia was our ally, in WWII.

Fact: Australia has a lot at stake, with her small population, in the midst of billions of potantial enemies.

[Seth1]

what will be much more amusing to watch is the Cheerleaders who have called Gibson nothing short of God recently now turn on him like rabid dogs. That will be worth the price of admission alone.

That's why I'm here. Did I miss anything?