Posted on 03/11/2004 5:53:16 AM PST by Theodore R.
The Bible and homosexuality
Posted: March 11, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Sen. John Kerry suggested to an audience in Mississippi recently that the Bible is ambiguous on the topic of homosexuality.
"Well, I know the deep beliefs, I respect, I'm a Christian, I've read the Bible, and I know you can find the clauses that go both ways," he said. "I'm not here to argue that with you."
Well, I'm here to argue with Kerry. The Bible is clear on homosexuality – Old Testament and New Testament: Homosexuality is an abomination.
Kerry may not believe it. You may not believe it. But the Bible states it clearly and unambiguously. And, despite what Kerry says, there are no "clauses" that suggest anything else.
Here's a brief Bible study for the man who would be president.
It begins in Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
That seems pretty clear to me. Maybe Kerry has another interpretation. The chapter goes on to state that people who commit these acts, and others God considers abominations, causes the land itself to be defiled.
Then, in the New Testament, Paul writes in Romans 1:22-27:
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I'm still waiting for any Bible student to show me even one verse that suggests a more "tolerant" view of homosexuality.
Generally speaking, the best they can do is to suggest Jesus Himself never spoke out against homosexuality.
There are two problems with that statement:
First, Christians believe Jesus came not to overturn the law but to fulfill it. They believe He is the Word – its living fulfillment. They believe He is eternal and part of the Godhead that created the Heavens, the Earth and Man. Therefore, Jesus never contradicted any of the law. He quoted from it. He taught from it. He explained it. He affirmed it.
Second, Jesus did speak out, as recorded in Matthew 19:4-6:
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Here Jesus had an opportunity to explain any middle ground in this issue of men and women. As if to underscore the point, he did later provide something of an exemption for eunuchs – men who do not have testicles. But he doesn't suggest God made homosexuals, lesbians, transgendereds, transvestites or bisexuals.
Kerry likes to be on both sides of all the issues. But that's difficult when it comes to God's unambiguous Word on relations between men and women. Maybe Kerry can let the American people in on which "clauses" he's found in the Bible that would justify homosexuality as anything other than an abomination.
You can choose to believe the Bible. You can choose to disbelieve it. But you cannot say it says something it does not say.
To disprove these as attributes of God you simply must go to the Bible and find contradicting assertions.
It's not what I "opine"; I am nothing. It's what the Bible says. These are just a few justifications for the above claims:
He is the Judge of all. (Hebrews 12:23)
He hates sin. (Proverbs 6:16)
He is faithful and true. (Rev 1:5, 3:7).
Or perhaps what you meant to say is what "Christians" say, not what "some" Christians say. Again, what a Christian is is definitional. Not what I opine, but what the Bible says.
who worship the creature more than the creator
Wonder who the creature is? Satan?
"If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises fron the dead." (Luke 16:31)
If the Bible is 100% clear then why are there so many different Christian sects? Why is there Judaism?
I READ the Bible. I agree with the author - Kerry is an idiot.
"There are NO fence riders in God's Kingdom! No such thing as accepting God half way!"
Good analogy. Guys who ride the fence, end up with high pitched voices.
"Both ways"???
Why did I even sully my eyes and read this??
(Rhetorical question, we always need to know what the enemy is up to.)
My interpretation from the bible has always been that homosexuality and sodomy is an abomination towards God and an unforgivable sin.
At this point in my life, I see no reason to change my beliefs. I don't think God put me here to sit-n-spin on another guy. NO THANKS!
Just noticed the date on the article.
There's no doubt in what [the Bible] actually says on the topic; same for adultery, fornication (of any variety), murder, slander, etc.; even calling a Christian who doesn't provide for his family worse than an unbeliever. It's just that if A wants B and C says he cannot have it and A wants some aspect of C to make his life more palatable, then A has to come up with reasons to nullify C's injunction against B.
No, I read it all... just provided you with the Gospel reference...
Yes and Yes, but "humanists" don't believe "fairy tales."
RESPONSE: No person ever brought the subject to Christ's attention.
I told myself I wasn't going to take the bait this time.
But I thought He came to bring stuff to _our_ attention, not the other way around.
The Bible is infallible. It may not be 100% clear--this is a performance issue on the part of the reader. Some of the Bible is a mystery (an understatement).
There are probably many Christian sects because of fallible men. God in His Mercy may have provided for this. We are saved not because we are infallible, but because we are fallible and are in need of salvation. If the Holy Spirit impresses upon us our need for salvation, we can receive it by faith (justification) and can try to live our lives consistent with that faith (sanctification). We fall; we get up; we go on. But we are no longer stumbling in darkness.
Is your last question "Why didn't all the Jews become Christians?" In the gospel of John it says that He came to his own (the Jews) and they did not receive Him. (John 1:11). Salvation is "from" the Jews, but it has come to the "Gentiles" to make them (the Jews) jealous (Romans 11:11). There will continue to be Jews until His second coming where they play a part during the tribulation (see Revelation 7:4ff). God chose this stiff necked people. Woe to anyone who persecutes them.
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