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Death of marriage in Scandinavia
The Boston Globe ^ | 3/10/2004 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 03/10/2004 6:25:47 PM PST by CTpatriot

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:11:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

IN THE Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's dueling opinions on same-sex marriage, each side places the burden of proof on the other. The majority in the Goodridge decision insists there is "no rational reason" for defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. The minority chides the majority for its "blind faith" that there are no potential dangers to so radical a change. Both sides lack evidence on the real-world effects of same-sex marriage. Yet evidence is in. Marriage is dying in Scandinavia, which has had marriage-like same-sex registered partnerships for over a decade.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
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1 posted on 03/10/2004 6:25:48 PM PST by CTpatriot
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To: CTpatriot
Few of us want to return to the 1950s in the matter of homosexuality.

Oh, really?

2 posted on 03/10/2004 6:28:31 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to articulate the entire post?)
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To: CTpatriot
the Goodridge decision insists there is "no rational reason" for defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman

MAD! Quite mad!

3 posted on 03/10/2004 6:29:47 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Paul Atreides
Yes, we don't want to do that. The fall in the rate of STDs, alone, would be a dreadfully sudden change. Especially as drug resistant forms are now appearing.
4 posted on 03/10/2004 6:31:35 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: CTpatriot
What is the agenda?

The family is the least common denominator of a government, The country, the state, the county, the city, the family. Destruction of the base, in this case the family, is the Begining of the end of civilized government. I hope these people are not that smart but you never know.

5 posted on 03/10/2004 6:37:52 PM PST by BIGZ
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To: BIGZ
Liberal socialists aren't interested in "fairness" or "equality" as principles. That dogma is for public consumption.

What they are interested in is destroying liberal democracy. The homosexual marriage issue is merely a cover for a campaign to uproot and destroy the bourgeoise family, the source (in Marxist terminology) of all social inequality.

6 posted on 03/10/2004 6:44:28 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: CTpatriot
The Boston Globe should just be titled Boston "Gay" Globe.


It there a way to pressure advertisers? How many car dealers would pull their regular ads if they knew the will loose business. Furniture stores? Real Estate Developers?

If newspapers are really in trouble then they should pay a price for this lack of journalism.
7 posted on 03/10/2004 6:51:53 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: CTpatriot
Yet it is not too late for the people to rectify the court's mistake.

A liberal court made a mistake? Be still my beating heart.
8 posted on 03/10/2004 6:53:11 PM PST by microgood
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To: CTpatriot
Even before the establishment of registered partnerships, many Scandinavians were starting to have their first child outside of marriage. Although the couple's relationship was still considered experimental through the birth of the first child, most parents did marry before the birth of the second child.

This is hardly a new phenomenon. I know this was common in heavily Catholic Austria (and perhaps other European countries as well) for many decades, long before anyone had ever heard of "registered partnerships". I don't know if it still is -- I gather the practice may actually have died out in the past generation or two. But it used to be considered just a matter of common sense for a man not to marry a woman until it was proven that she could bear children.

9 posted on 03/10/2004 7:00:35 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: CTpatriot
Scandinavia's unusually large welfare state and its notably strong secularism.

Secularism? Ummm... they have state-run religion in Scandinavia...

10 posted on 03/10/2004 7:31:09 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: ambrose
Scandanavia (especially Sweden) is a matriarchy. Anyone find it interesting that their illegitimacy rate is about equal to African-Americans?
11 posted on 03/10/2004 7:35:54 PM PST by Righty1 (N)
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To: ambrose
they have state-run religion in Scandinavia

Not anymore in Sweden. Den svenska kyrkan was disestablished in 2000.

12 posted on 03/10/2004 8:13:29 PM PST by Charles Henrickson ("The Church of Sweden.")
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To: CTpatriot
INTREP - SOCIOLOGY - MARRIAGE
13 posted on 03/10/2004 8:41:13 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Charles Henrickson
The liberal dream is to turn all children into "bastards raised in a bureau", as a wise Brit once characterized childrearing in Plato's ideal republic. The Scandahoovian countries have largely succeeded in attaining this enviable state.
14 posted on 03/10/2004 8:44:04 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I could never vote for a guy with a chin like that.)
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To: anguish; AzSteven; Bartholomew Roberts; bc2; Charles Henrickson; duke_h3; Eurotwit; fdsa2; ...
Hej! to the Swedish Ping List.
15 posted on 03/11/2004 7:21:58 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Keeper of the Swedish Ping List)
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