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Why Isn't There a Conservative Answer to MoveOn.org?
03-05-2004 | Americathy

Posted on 03/05/2004 5:40:02 AM PST by Americathy

I'm new to Free Republic, and I kind of see it as an activist haven for conservatives. But I only heard about it by way of an e-mail link, though once I think I heard Ann Coulter mention it on Hannity & Colmes. I'm sure there are other activist organizations out there, but I have to wonder if conservatives have anything like MoveOn.org. My guess is, no - at least nothing that is visible, or has the backing of huge money from people like George Soros, who I think is a very scary power player. Everyone knows that the Democrats can rely on MoveOn to be its mouthpiece, which means they have a way to get around campaign laws.

I saw an article linked on this site, by Mona Charon, that advises Bush to take the gloves off. If we had a MoveOn.org of our own, with the money to produce commercials, perhaps we could put those gloves on for ourselves. I would love to see some very damaging commercials about John Kerry's post-war record and his voting record. He is a traitor to this country, but all I hear from Republicans is how much respect his service to our country. I would respect it to if he hadn't come back as a traitor. I would love to see some Vietnam Vets step up to the plate on primetime.

Hillary is another problem. We need to crush her. I didn't hear a thing about Hillary's pro-Saddam comments this week until I saw a thread on this site, the article by Oliver North. I would love to see some commercials made by our own activist group that denounces her viciously. Put these rotten people's records in primetime. We must expose them and hit them with both barrels!

If there is an conservative organization that is comparable to MoveOn.org, please let me know, and I'll join up. After that I'll be asking, "Why haven't I heard of you? Is it me? And if you are out there, where are the commercials, the ads, the visibility? Do you have a big power player, an answer to Soros?"

Just some thoughts, and I would interested to hear what everybody thinks.

-Cat


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: conservatives; moveon; repeatposter; retread
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To: Americathy
As my grandfather used to say, "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see...."

Pretty applicable to media reports.
121 posted on 03/05/2004 6:18:51 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Maelstrom; All
I remember seeing some of that stuff during the New York protests! If you can find that link I would be grateful.

And would someone please tell "CyberAnt" to get off my back? I don't even understand what he is suggesting - I'm not a Bush supporter because I wonder why MoveOn.org gets all the press? I don't get it! Maybe I'm just too dense ....
122 posted on 03/05/2004 6:24:55 PM PST by Americathy
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To: Americathy
FR was the "Supplier Of" the "Pocket-Protector Brigade" who BLOCKED the attempted "Secret Count" of Votes in Broward County, (I'm NOT SURE WHICH FLA. County attempted to Count the Votes, "In Secret."). FR WAS THERE.

FR was the "Source of" Mr Gore's Discomfort as it's members told Mr Gore to "Get Out of Cheney's House!!"

FReepers tend to operate "On the Edge" of "Political Discourse!"

FR was Intimately Involved in the Impeachment of the FIRST American President Whose Behavior was "Subject to Impeachment!"

Many Generations from now, the Events about the Impeachment of Mr Clinton will DEMEAN that "President,"--especially his attempt to use our Legal System to Mask & Divert His Obvious Guilt--, & Diminish His "Presidency" to the "Level That" He was merely a "Fumbling, Political Caretaker;--a "HACK!""

Wm. J. Clinton--& His "Wife"--, were Responsible for MORE DAMAGE to our USA, than ANY OTHER POLITICIANS (EVEN John Kerry &, (The HORROR,) TED KENNEDY!)).

If our Beleagured Nation is to Survive, then the "Influence of" the "Clintons, Kennedy's, Kerry's, & Other Communists MUST BE "NEUTRALIZED!!" Doc

123 posted on 03/05/2004 7:01:17 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: TommyDale
Because Consservatives have morals?

Or could it be, (dare I say it?) JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!

124 posted on 03/05/2004 8:15:24 PM PST by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: Trident/Delta
Could it possibly be that consevatives have real jobs, real families, and real lives that occupy their time?

True, True!!!

125 posted on 03/05/2004 8:17:10 PM PST by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: RedLeather
["Why Isn't There a Conservative Answer to MoveOn.org?" THERE IS! It's called rightmarch.com]

Thanks for the mention and I look forward to checking it out. . .but obviously; it has not caught on, like Moveon. . .or more would know about it; hear about it. . .

Truth is, Repubs do not do politics as 'blood sport'; as do our truth-challenged, Lib opposition and hence the success of MoveOn. But really wish we would tackle the 'truth' of the Dems as if it were.

Rush cannot do it all.. .and neither can Freepers.

126 posted on 03/05/2004 9:29:10 PM PST by cricket
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To: Americathy
I understand your question and your concerns; have wondered myself, where is the articulated response to the propaganda and lies of MoveOn ? Why don't the Repubs offer more 'truth serum'?

MoveOn is mentioned in credible tones - even on Fox; no one blasts it for what it is; save the rareest occasion. . .

As I said earlier, the truth is, Repubs do not do politics as 'blood sport'; as do our truth-challenged, lust-for-kill, Lib opposition and hence the success of MoveOn.

But really wish we would tackle the ugly truth of the Dems as if it were just that.

127 posted on 03/05/2004 9:49:53 PM PST by cricket
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To: Spiff
Bump.
128 posted on 03/05/2004 10:01:02 PM PST by jokar (Not one dime more !!!)
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To: Americathy
I was thinking ... hey, a good alternative to moveon.org could be named "RightOn.org", i.e. us rightwingers! In checking, though, apparently someone has created it. It's seems under construction with only an email address accessable but hopefully someone else is thinking as you are. If not, there are plenty of other names to give it. In other words, we need a funding website for conservative fund raising. Count me in. AgThorn
129 posted on 03/05/2004 10:12:40 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Americathy; ValerieUSA
we could call it GetOverIt.org, or perhaps start a magazine, "W", with the website name suggested by Dennis Miller, "www dot w com". ;')
130 posted on 03/06/2004 12:36:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (This forum allows optional use of most HTML tags, but not HTML taglines.)
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To: Americathy
Look what happend to Gibson and the two homosexuals who run Dreamworks. They said they will "never work with him again."

The thought police are out in force. The Media (NYT etc) dismiss out of hand such organization and Moveon is not called a "leftwing" organization. (or that it was founded as a site dedicated to forgetting about the lewisnksy sex scandal)
131 posted on 03/06/2004 1:27:52 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Has anyone notice the lack of kerry parody sites.

There are a number parodying GWbush but I have yet to see one that is just off the johnerry name.
132 posted on 03/06/2004 1:31:14 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Americathy
There is an alternative:

http://www.MOVERIGHT.org
133 posted on 03/06/2004 2:17:30 AM PST by Capitalism2003 (Got principles? http://www.Libertarianism.com http://www.LP.org)
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To: Trident/Delta; Americathy; Defendingliberty; diotima; Bob J
Timely questions Cat that I have been asking for the last couple weeks.
Trident, I disagree with you. Yes, I know the working families are busy. But what about OUR conservative deep pockets? Don't WE have any wealthy conservatives? Aren't WE the ones who say that capitalism works and lifts people up fiancially? So WHERE are our conservative billionaires? MIA.

Hollywood & rich liberals & liberal foundations fund leftist action organizations. They are able to hire full time directors and staff and move FORWARD. Where are OUR funded organizations? Yes, I know that conservatives are buys working. But smart ones would understand that he/she was busy but needed activists and would help out with funding. That is NOT welfare.

Even on FR many do not even cough up a dollar a year. It's pathetic and I am tired of us hiding behind the "we are busy working" excuse. Conservative dollars are obviously NOT being funneled into action organizations. That needs to change. IMHO.

PS Defending Liberty, you say that conservatives don't fund political action groups because we don't fund propagnada. Exposing lies does NOT constitute propaganda. Why would you assume that we would be the same as the leftists? IMHO This kind of thinking is part of the problem getting support from "conservatives." Really, we conservatives need to put our thinking caps back on and get with the program.

134 posted on 03/06/2004 10:39:09 AM PST by Libertina (The Passion of the Christ - inspired, inspiring. Thank you Mel Gibson!)
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To: Libertina
The best we seem to have right now is the Club for Growth
135 posted on 03/06/2004 10:43:46 AM PST by Gopher Broke (Abortion: Big people killing little people)
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To: Libertina
Right on, Libertina! Thanks for the supportive words!
136 posted on 03/06/2004 10:46:30 AM PST by Americathy
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To: Americathy
Bump.
137 posted on 03/06/2004 10:48:52 AM PST by jokar (Not one dime more !!!)
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To: Gopher Broke
Sorry to disagree. Club for growth is an excellent one which works with elected officials in the "genteel" political system. I am talking about ACTIVISM. Think NOW, NAACP, Sierra Club, Move ON, PETA, RainboW PUSH, Green Peace, PFLAG, on and on. I am not saying we conservatives should become insane in ou actions, but these liberal groups are POWERFUL and they did it little by little, inch by inch. WITH WITH WITH WITH WITH funding from rich liberals. How many FReepers pay even a dollar? We talk about the rats refusing to acknowledge reality, well IMHO we must engage in some serious introspection as well... Then make the needed changes.
138 posted on 03/06/2004 10:52:08 AM PST by Libertina
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To: Libertina
Did you ever think that many of these groups are wasting their money....ProtestWarrior.com can get press and make these Moveon events that cost thousands to put on look stupid...for pennies on the dollar....
139 posted on 03/06/2004 10:55:19 AM PST by Defendingliberty (www.defendingliberty.com)
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To: Gopher Broke
Furthermore, I can name very few conservative political actions groups. SAS, TRT, FR, ... none of these have the national standing and none have had any deep pockets step forward. Why in the h*ll isn't JimRob innundated with offers of cash? Look at this forum and what he has accomplished. Why has NO wealthy conservative stepped up to help expand it even more? FRN, the action/education arm of FR is doing amzing things... through the volunteer work of a few people and the cash of one. (Who is NOT a "deep pocket.) Again, we got where we are by doing what we did. Want to change it? Then we STOP offering the same answers.
140 posted on 03/06/2004 10:57:20 AM PST by Libertina
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