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NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig's Ammunition Ban Amendment
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| February 26, 2004
| Angel Shamaya
Posted on 02/26/2004 11:15:11 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
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To: Gargantua
Well...
Lessee here. 200grn cupros (free)+basic loading supplies
@28.5 Cents per round.
Will it go through a M1A1? No, but it will do a number on a Suburban....
SMLE. Cost: about 150.00 us dollars.
VS
Depleted Uranium rounds = can't get and can't afford.
.50 caliber rifle minimum for a good one, 1500.00 american dollars.
I'll deal with JBT-mobiles long before I deal with M1 tanks.
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posted on
03/03/2004 1:36:27 PM PST
by
cavtrooper21
(911. Government sponsored "Dial-a-Prayer".)
To: cavtrooper21
I agree about the JBT mobiles, and I was (obviously, I thought) joking about the depleted uranium rounds.
Stay safe, stay armed.
;-/
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posted on
03/03/2004 8:30:58 PM PST
by
Gargantua
(Choose this day Whom you will serve.)
To: Travis McGee
Add me to the bang list, if you would, please.
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posted on
03/10/2004 10:42:38 AM PST
by
gundog
To: yarddog
They have plenty of power for shooting people and that flat pointed bullet is effective.Yikes!
The last gunshow that I attended had some of Remington's Accelerator rounds in 30-30...SP .223(55 gr.)in sabots stuffed in standard 30-30 brass. Not sure as to the advisability of stacking 'em in a tubular magazine, though. The dealer told me that Remington is discontinuing them...I don't know for sure. In my experience, what that means is "You should buy my entire inventory, right now." :)
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posted on
03/10/2004 11:06:19 AM PST
by
gundog
To: Myrddin
Kennedy is already pushing to ban all centerfire ammo. Rifle or otherwise.To include all components.?
325
posted on
03/10/2004 11:13:11 AM PST
by
gundog
To: Travis McGee
The Shoguns must be getting disturbed by all of the cases and cases of surplus ball ammo in 556, 762X39 and 308 getting shipped to mere peasants across the land. Must disturb them greatly. One can only hope that it has them is an absolute cold sweat. That is the exact point. There a L - O - T of cases and cases and cases of sealed, well preserved ammo in private hands, there is more every day and it will be there for a LONG time.
AMEN
T L I
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posted on
03/10/2004 11:25:17 AM PST
by
TLI
(...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
To: Don Joe
It was a chilling, haunting "siren-like" wailing.A mortally wounded raccoon will make that sound, or one similar to it. I've shot many with CB rounds and had them crawl off and start in with that Gawd-awful wailing.
327
posted on
03/10/2004 11:31:42 AM PST
by
gundog
To: american_ranger
"Armor Piercing" is a military term about a bullet designed to penetrate light armor. Typically these have steel cores so they are heavier thus more kinetic energy...What the f*&%...? Steel is used simply because it doesn't flatten like a bug on impact. In point of fact it is less dense than lead.
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posted on
03/10/2004 11:38:06 AM PST
by
gundog
To: SauronOfMordor
Remington used to make "Remington Accelerator" ammo...Some was available as recently as last Saturday at a gun show...in 30-06 and 30-30. I'd hate to start thinking in terms of "pre-ban" ammo.
329
posted on
03/10/2004 11:45:29 AM PST
by
gundog
To: gundog
The *Bang_list isn't that kind of list. What you do is go to this URL, and put the page that appears into your "favorites." Then, every day or so, go to your favorites, and click that link, and you will see a listing of all of the latest gun-oriented "*Bang_list" threads.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/involved?group=152
Bang List Link Here.
330
posted on
03/10/2004 5:37:48 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: TLI
I wrote a 568 page novel, mainly to put the grabboids into a cold sweat, so that they will be informed enough not to try anything REALLY stupid.
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posted on
03/10/2004 5:43:04 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: gundog
I didn't see the detail in the bill. Presumably, you would no longer be able to handload ammo. The "goverment" would dictate the maximum powder charges and bullet types that a commercial ammo manufacturer could offer for sale. That would be the only way to control whether the round could penetrate a bullet proof vest. It is a wrong-headed approach that amounts to a stealth attempt at full disarmament by eliminating ammo.
332
posted on
03/11/2004 7:56:41 PM PST
by
Myrddin
To: ahadams2
Yep.
I guessed the source of this article just from the first couple of lines.
Same old same old.
What's their motto? Bash the NRA/Republican Party - Vote for kerry?
333
posted on
07/29/2004 6:52:51 PM PDT
by
Shooter 2.5
(Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
To: Shooter 2.5
you wrote "What's their motto? Bash the NRA/Republican Party - Vote for kerry?"
naah, they're more subtle than that - they want to Bash the NRA and the GOP so gullible people will vote for fringe candidates, thus insuring kerry's election...or at least it sure looks that way from here.
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posted on
07/29/2004 7:53:38 PM PDT
by
ahadams2
(http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com is the url for the Anglican Freeper Resource Page)
To: ChicagoHebrew
About the only thing you need armor piercing ammunition for is killing cops.
No, since cops vests (which are not "armor" can be penetrated by ordinary rifle rounds, the only thing AP ammo is good for is for defending the security of a free state against agents of tyranny who are hiding behind ARMOR.
335
posted on
07/29/2004 8:09:36 PM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: american_ranger
>>"Armor Piercing" is a military term about a bullet designed to penetrate light armor. Typically these have steel cores so they are heavier thus more kinetic energy and will borrow through more armor.
NO, actually, steel (or tungsten, or whatever) is lighter (or not significantly heavier) than lead. The point is that it remains sharp and skinny, and carried through metal armor plate.
>>"Armor Piercing" bullets are already outlawed.
NO, they are generally legal, except that sales by licensed firearm dealers is restricted, as is importation. Perfectly legal for you and me to own, under federal law.
>>"Cop killer" or bullets that will penetrate protective vests are different and subjective to a lot of things.
NO, "cop-killer bullets" is a fictional term. It refers to hard bullets that have no advantage on bullet proof vests, but are designed for cops to shoot through vehicle glass and sheet metal. They are coated with plastic (teflon) to avoid wearing out cop gun barrels, not to have any effect on penetrating kevlar vests. I suppose they would better be termed "cop killer-bullets."
>>A large pistol bullet at close range can penetrate a protective vest.
Not necessarily. Depends much more on the vest and on the bullet and load than on the range.
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posted on
07/29/2004 8:33:51 PM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: TERMINATTOR
As someone trying to become a LEO, I'm not worried about AP rounds. I'm more worried about three guys jumping me, or someone I locked up before recognizing me and my family out on the town and trying something stupid, or my agency hierarchy selling me out for politically expedient reasons.
337
posted on
07/29/2004 9:04:51 PM PDT
by
TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
(You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
To: Travis McGee
338
posted on
07/29/2004 9:06:00 PM PDT
by
TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
(You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
339
posted on
07/29/2004 9:08:31 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: archy
Good to see you back on your feet, archy.
What do you make of the claims being made here? I can't sort it out between the hyperbole and what this legislation actually says/what it would actually do. Do you have a take on it?
Again, good to see you back on FR.
340
posted on
07/30/2004 5:44:03 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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