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Petition to Arrest Mayor Newsom
Petition to Gov. Schwarzenegger to Arrest Mayor Newsom of San Francisco ^ | 2/19/2004 | Nick Bradley

Posted on 02/19/2004 8:48:39 PM PST by Remember_Salamis

To: Califonia Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco has violated California law by Marrying Same-sex couples in San Francisco. It is patently unlawful to issue marriage certificates to same-sex couples. Section 308.5 of the California Family Code plainly defines a valid marriage as being limited to one man and one woman. Furthermore, California Penal Code section 115 prohibits the knowing procurement of any false or forged instrument to be filed or recorded in any public office, making such an act a felony punishable by up to three (3) years in prison.

The Mayor of San Francisco is giving the middle finger to the State of California and the United States as a Whole. To make it worse, Mayor Newsom and the City of San Francisco has stated that it is suing the state of California, challenging its ban on same-sex marriages on constitutional grounds. By doing so, Mayor Newsom is proposing that every law that was not a constitutional amendment is un-enforceable. If he is not arrested, there is no basis for drug laws, the carrying of concealed weapons, prostitution, and every other law that is not written into the constitution of the state of California.

Please arrest this man.


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To: Tanniker Smith
A few Cal based Freepers could go in and apply for a marriage license for them and a dog or cat.
61 posted on 02/20/2004 10:19:58 AM PST by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com < go there or be square!)
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To: MHGinTN
......where's the Terminator? This is what one gets with a RINO.

Where exactly *are* all those pre-election Arnie supporters who thought it was "chicken little" stuff to claim that if you elect a liberal governor that's what you get.

Hate to say I told ya so but.........

62 posted on 02/20/2004 10:20:46 AM PST by gdani
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To: abraxas_sandiego
"wow...what an insightful, intelligent response. well done."

Why babble on when the facts alone will suffice?

63 posted on 02/20/2004 10:26:01 AM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: Remember_Salamis
"The rule of law is dead. please help. You might think that California might as well sink into the ocean, but your state is next."

Wrong. My state is next. New Mexico is in the news today. Clerk took it on her own to start issuing licenses.

From supreme court justice, to mayor, to clerk. What next? Will the dog catcher start issuing licenses in Podunk?

64 posted on 02/20/2004 10:31:07 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: SAMWolf; Alamo-Girl
You are both very welcome.

BUMP BTTT!

65 posted on 02/20/2004 10:31:09 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Volley bump!
66 posted on 02/20/2004 10:33:17 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head
Wilco Jeff,

It would be great to see this one catch fire like the Ground Zero Memorial Petition.

BTW, What the hell does the mayor of SFO think he's doing anyway? Doesn't he know that the San Andreas fault runs right through his city? I'm not predicting anything, but if they were to get a major quake about now - think Sodom and Gomorrah.

67 posted on 02/20/2004 10:34:00 AM PST by Barnacle (Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.)
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To: Travis McGee; bootless
I wonder how quickly the governor and the federal authorities would arrest this man and his cohorts if they started handing our counterfeit money on the steps of city hall...stating it was just as good as the real thing and that the people had a right to it.

My guess is that it would last all of a few hours at most.

Yet that is precisely the type of thing they are doing. Devaluing and ruining the currecny of real marriage by passing out counterfeits. And, IMHO, thr results will be far mor damaging and far reaching than those of counterfeit money if it is not stopped.

68 posted on 02/20/2004 10:35:19 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Look, here's my point: all you hand-wringers who come up with stupid ideas like arresting Newsom are wasting your time, and would get blown out of the water in court based on your legal arguments. The BOTTOM LINE is that ONLY a constitutional amendment will resolve this issue...that's where you should be placing your energy.
69 posted on 02/20/2004 10:36:01 AM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: Barnacle
That is my hope as well. See my post to Travis McGee and bootless in post #68 on this thread.
70 posted on 02/20/2004 10:36:17 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: seamole
Apparently, the arguments are beyond your ability to understand. Go back to reading the funny pages.
71 posted on 02/20/2004 10:38:55 AM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: Jeff Head
Good point. Counterfeit money doesn't threaten the very future of civilization itself like this insanity.
72 posted on 02/20/2004 10:40:54 AM PST by Barnacle (Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.)
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To: abraxas_sandiego
No...the mayor is clearly violating the law he has sworn to uphold. There must be a consequence for that to deter his actions and the actions of others. Otherwise you end up with anarchy...and anarchy is almost always followed by something much worse.

No hand wringing about that. He should be arrested for his actions as an elected official sworn to uphold the law and violating it. What happens in the trial comes later...the arrest should occur based on his actions but the pols do not have the cajones to simply do what is right. It is one of the principle problems besetting us as a people right now. They are too worried about "politics" and not worried about their duty or sworn oath and therefore there are no consequences for such actions which begets more and more of them.

Say all you wish about legalistic manuever...in the end, a horse theif is still a horse theif...so to speak.

73 posted on 02/20/2004 10:41:29 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Barnacle
It is the insanity of the depraved who, in their hedonistic cravings, want to do anything they can to take on the appearance of normalcy, when all along they are still rotting from within. It is also the insanity of those who crave power who will do anything political to get a vote...irrespective of the consequences. Both are mortal enemies to freedom and to this Republic IMHO.

You cannot sugarcoat a cow paddy and call it good.

74 posted on 02/20/2004 10:44:32 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
The fact is that reasonable minds differ on whether he has violated the law or not...otherwise there would be no debate on the issue. RIGHT??? The CA constitution prevents discrimination, and would supercede whatever the law he's accused of breaking is. That's the entire point of our legal system- to make that determination. I think it's funny how disdainful people on the site are of lawyers, the court system, and "legal manuvering"...in reality, it's what makes this nation so special.
75 posted on 02/20/2004 10:50:35 AM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; Jeff Head
"We don't want to make a martyr of Newsom, which would make him the hero to millions. We have to be very careful what course of action we take. "

Martyr? Hardly. An example of anarchy from the top down.

If there be any here who have reason to believe 'this man and this man, or this woman and this woman should not 'marry,' speak now or forever hold your peace.'

Thanks for the ping, Jeff.

76 posted on 02/20/2004 11:02:50 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Tanniker Smith
I would love for some freeper to show up with a goat, a lamb and a chicken and demand to be married just to make the point.
77 posted on 02/20/2004 11:14:28 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (black dogs are my life)
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To: abraxas_sandiego
What makes our nation so special is not the lawyers, or the judges, or the myriad officials. It is the people themselves. And what makes the liberty and freedom of those people possible under the constitution is the moral decency and foundation fo those same people.

Our nation was not designed to have myriad legal minds telling us the ins and outs of every jot and tittle of the law. it was designed for a people who governed themselves according to the moral value system that undergirded the whole.

When we lose that...the other becomes necessary in a vain effort to prevent what John Adams so clearly saw, again, in his words:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798
What is happening in San Francisco is just one of many examples of just what Adams spoke to. What is happening in San Francisco is wrong both under the law and morally. When common sense, common decency and foundational morality take a tumble...and when they do it as a result of the free will choice of the people...then disaster (as respects our fondational liberties) lies not far in the future.

I hope and pray there are still officials who will respect these things and who will act out of a sense of what is right...both under the law, morally, and with respect to common sense.

We started on this path lon ago with the basic bnreak down of the moral fiber of this nation. Some say it started in the 60's...I believe it just got a big boost then. The forces of morality, common sense, deceny and truth on one side and immorality, depravity, hedonism, lies and all manner of worng doing on the other have always contended with one another. We found a constitutional system in this country, that was adopted by the free will of the citizens that enshrined the fomrer part of that equation in law and in freedom. We have faltered seriously from that. Abportion on demand is one of the clearest indicators and examples of it...and now this. I pray we can reverse the trend of its breakdown.

If we are to do so...it will not be by legalese or wrangling or any purely politcal mechanism...it will be by forthright defense and action that lays those considerations aside in defense of simply what is right...just like the events that brought it into being in the first place.

I pray we do not have to go to the same lengths. I believe there is yet time to avoid that.

You may disagree. That is fine and your right.

78 posted on 02/20/2004 11:16:07 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Eastbound
You are welcome my friend...see my post #78.
79 posted on 02/20/2004 11:17:12 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Remember_Salamis
I hope there is a platform fight on this issue at the DEMs convention in Boston this summer.
80 posted on 02/20/2004 11:25:32 AM PST by FlatLandBeer
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