[abraxas_sandiego]

The fact is that reasonable minds differ on whether he has violated the law or not...otherwise there would be no debate on the issue. RIGHT??? The CA constitution prevents discrimination, and would supercede whatever the law he's accused of breaking is. That's the entire point of our legal system- to make that determination. I think it's funny how disdainful people on the site are of lawyers, the court system, and "legal manuvering"...in reality, it's what makes this nation so special.

[Jeff Head]

What makes our nation so special is not the lawyers, or the judges, or the myriad officials. It is the people themselves. And what makes the liberty and freedom of those people possible under the constitution is the moral decency and foundation fo those same people.

Our nation was not designed to have myriad legal minds telling us the ins and outs of every jot and tittle of the law. it was designed for a people who governed themselves according to the moral value system that undergirded the whole.

When we lose that...the other becomes necessary in a vain effort to prevent what John Adams so clearly saw, again, in his words:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798

What is happening in San Francisco is just one of many examples of just what Adams spoke to. What is happening in San Francisco is wrong both under the law and morally. When common sense, common decency and foundational morality take a tumble...and when they do it as a result of the free will choice of the people...then disaster (as respects our fondational liberties) lies not far in the future.

I hope and pray there are still officials who will respect these things and who will act out of a sense of what is right...both under the law, morally, and with respect to common sense.

We started on this path lon ago with the basic bnreak down of the moral fiber of this nation. Some say it started in the 60's...I believe it just got a big boost then. The forces of morality, common sense, deceny and truth on one side and immorality, depravity, hedonism, lies and all manner of worng doing on the other have always contended with one another. We found a constitutional system in this country, that was adopted by the free will of the citizens that enshrined the fomrer part of that equation in law and in freedom. We have faltered seriously from that. Abportion on demand is one of the clearest indicators and examples of it...and now this. I pray we can reverse the trend of its breakdown.

If we are to do so...it will not be by legalese or wrangling or any purely politcal mechanism...it will be by forthright defense and action that lays those considerations aside in defense of simply what is right...just like the events that brought it into being in the first place.

I pray we do not have to go to the same lengths. I believe there is yet time to avoid that.

You may disagree. That is fine and your right.