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| February 17, 2004
| Mike Morrison
Posted on 02/18/2004 8:06:40 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: js1138
Sorry, I didn't "misinterpretate" anything that you said. I just repeated it. If you don't like what you said you ought to own up to it. And I don't intend to "mark" anything that you say, based on your remarks on this thread. But thanks anyway.
To: sarasmom
My problem with you is that we seem to be on the same side, but you want to pick a fight over strategy. I'm right on this one. You will not see an official Republican demand for Kerry's military records.
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posted on
02/19/2004 12:40:17 AM PST
by
js1138
To: js1138
143
posted on
02/19/2004 12:40:54 AM PST
by
Congressman Billybob
(www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
To: A Citizen Reporter
You did not repeat what I said. You did not quote me and you did not correctly paraphrase what I said. Fortunately the Republicans will not be listening to hotheads.
This issue will come to light, but it will not be spearheaded by Bush or the RNC.
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posted on
02/19/2004 12:43:28 AM PST
by
js1138
To: js1138
What are you?
Stupid?
Or just so reflexively politically partisan you no longer care what the politicians you support actually stand for?
Rent a clue!
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posted on
02/19/2004 12:44:28 AM PST
by
sarasmom
(Hanoi Jane admires John F*ing Kerry's military service in Vietnam=things that make you go hmmmm)
To: Congressman Billybob
I really regret making this a flame war, but some people can't read English. There's a difference between "Republicans" and "the Republicans". I guess they don't teach that in public school.
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posted on
02/19/2004 12:46:30 AM PST
by
js1138
To: js1138
So Republican Veterans are not "official" Republicans?
Have you ever explored the concept of elected, representative government?
This is not a test.
This is not a game.
This is the real world.
But thanks for playing!
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posted on
02/19/2004 12:55:36 AM PST
by
sarasmom
(Hanoi Jane admires John F*ing Kerry's military service in Vietnam=things that make you go hmmmm)
To: js1138
I am sure you regret making this a flame war. I, for one, am sick and tired of hearing from where an argument can credibly come. I'm sick to death of it. And if I'm not a Vietnam vet, but I take offense at John Kerry's "medal record" and I happen to be a "REPUBLICAN" you can damn well better that I'm going to ask for the records to be made public. I think you came on this thread to squelch those kinds of remarks.
To: A Citizen Reporter; sarasmom
I hope your kids aren't home schooled.
If you are a spokesperson for the RNC or any national organization devoted to reelecting George Bush, my guess is you will not be bringing up this issue. That is what I mean and that is what I said. In fact, if it does come up, I suspect that Bush will brush it off as unimportant. This is a prediction.
If you don't understand why, then you simply don't understand politics. And you probably don't understand why bush keeps getting elected.
I do hope that Drudge will find a way to keep it in the news.
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posted on
02/19/2004 1:06:12 AM PST
by
js1138
To: All
I distinctly remember reading that before he left Viet Nam, Kerry made sure that his crew had other assignments away from combat. How would he be able to do this? I thought this very odd, since it seems to me that a lieutenant would not have the authority to do this.
To: Bubba_Leroy
I always wonder how he received a silver star for shooting one enemy. I have yet to read his citation posted anywhere.
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posted on
02/19/2004 1:31:56 AM PST
by
ampat
(to)
To: ampat
Kerry requested the boat duty when it was not dangerous and the mission changed after he got his swift boat. I do think the republicans cannot spearhead this without significant risk. The Vets have to do it. I think he is a phoney, wrote up his own citations and used whatever he needed to get out of Viet Nam. He seems to be the ultimate opportunist. But for pubs to attack his war record is extrememly perilous in my opinion.
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posted on
02/19/2004 2:29:39 AM PST
by
cajungirl
(John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
To: mylife
My Dad had a bronze star. It took me almost until he
was eighty years old to even find out the name of the
battle he was in - Laiatico, Italy WWII. You are right.
The interminable "and you do know I was in Vietnam and
have seen real aircraft carriers, don't you?" doesn't add
up all that well. - Bumpity bump.
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posted on
02/19/2004 2:57:27 AM PST
by
Twinkie
To: Bubba_Leroy; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; autoresponder; PhilDragoo; onyx; yall
Interesting. Thanks !I've long thought that John Kerry's war record was phoney. We talked about it when you were here. It's mainly been instinct because, as you know, nobody who claims to have seen the action he does would so shamelessly flaunt it for political gain.
I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift boats), Kerry's command.
Here are my problems and suspicions ....
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posted on
02/19/2004 3:08:08 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: ridesthemiles
No way on earth is the Bush administration going to impugn Kerry's service in Viet Nam.
Nor should they!
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posted on
02/19/2004 3:40:45 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Same here.
In fact, about a month ago, My VV husband asked me to Google his military service because nothing was adding up.
To: sarasmom
"There was never an implication that Veterans had their own separate party.I have no idea why you are misreading the suggestion that a vet has more credibility than anyone to question medal inflation.
This would be a dangerous path for the Campaign because questioning someone's bravery,heroics is very tricky.The perception could be offensive to a lot of voters.
I hope some great researchers can find out if Kennedy was"sponsoring" him,making a Silver Star more easily approved.
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posted on
02/19/2004 3:51:02 AM PST
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Thank you. Everything about this guy smells.
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posted on
02/19/2004 4:10:57 AM PST
by
Argh
To: .cnI redruM
Wow, that's a fairly severe take-down.
That is a very severe take-down. Nay, a smack-down worthy of a Texas Cage Death Match.
John Kerry's Silver Star citation has always bugged me. He won it after beaching his boat, jumping off his boat, and going after a wounded man to administer the coup de grace. I just don't get it.
When he beached his boat, he took away the one defense the Swift Boat truly had, it's mobility. Put yourself in an officer's position: your boat takes B-40 fire from the shore, Victor Charles gets up to fire another round at you, your 50 Man takes him down, and then you head into shore, beach your boat, abandon your vessel to make sure that B-40 Charlie is dead, dead, dead?
What if B-40 Charlie had been bait for a VC platoon hiding in the reeds or the thick foliage along the river? Kerry and his crew might have been captured, killed, and his boat damaged beyond repair.
I just don't get the citation, that's all. I would have reprimanded the young sumbitch, too. No, I would not have relieved him; Kerry was a young JG right out of 90 Day Wonder School. He wasn't in-country long enough to get laid, for God's sakes, so we shouldn't expect him to have developed any battlewise common sense by the time this happened. Unfortunately, you don't develop good officers without allowing them to learn from their mistakes. But he did put his boat in danger when it didn't have to be. I can only hope that some senior chief or Kerry's division CO had a good Come to Jesus conversation with him afterwards.
Now I was never in Vietnam, nor even in uniform for that matter, but there are things here that just violate all the laws of thermodynamics. There may have been a reason that Kerry sicked his bitches in the Mainstream Press on George W. Bush's ANG records. I think we're getting close to the reason why.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
02/19/2004 4:18:13 AM PST
by
section9
(Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "I have John Kerry's medals at my blog. Click on the pic!")
To: Bubba_Leroy
Regardless of his real record. This all sounds plausible. I thank him for his service, but that is the end of my thanks. So I wrote this little rhyme for Senator Kerry.
Kerry
I thank you for your service,
Way back in Viet Nam.
But that is no free ticket,
To let you pull this scam.
You spit upon our nation,
Betrayed our young brave men.
You called them baby killers,
Its not true now, nor then.
You sir are just low life scum,
You prey upon rich chicks.
I hope Teresa sees the light,
And dumps your bag of tricks.
Ill vote for Bush this coming fall,
And pray that you dont win.
For if you win, we all will lose,
Our freedom will cave in.
Conspiracy Guy 2/16/4
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posted on
02/19/2004 4:23:54 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(I'm not stupid. I just act that way.)
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