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Something's fishy.
The Essex Soapbox ^ | February 17, 2004 | Mike Morrison

Posted on 02/18/2004 8:06:40 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy

I've long thought that John Kerry's war record was phoney. We talked about it when you were here. It's mainly been instinct because, as you know, nobody who claims to have seen the action he does would so shamelessly flaunt it for political gain.

I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift boats), Kerry's command.

Here are my problems and suspicions:

(1) Kerry was in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts. I never heard of anybody with any outfit I worked with (including SEAL One, the Sea Wolves, Riverines and the River Patrol Force) collecting that much hardware so fast, and for such pedestrian actions. The Swifts did a commendable job. But that duty wasn't the worst you could draw. They operated only along the coast and in the major rivers (Bassac and Mekong). The rough stuff in the hot areas was mainly handled by the smaller, faster PBRs. Fishy.

(2) Three Purple Hearts but no limp.. All injuries so minor that no time lost from duty. Amazing luck. Or he was putting himself in for medals every time he bumped his head on the wheel house hatch? Combat on the boats was almost always at close range. You didn't have minor wounds. At least not often. Not three times in a row. Then he used the three purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the end of his tour.. Fishy.

(3) The details of the event for which he was given the Silver Star make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 (rocket propelled grenade) was fired at the boat and missed. Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner knocks him down with the twin .50 (caliber machine guns), Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, shoots Charlie, and retrieves the launcher. If true, he did everything wrong. (a) Standard procedure when you took rocket fire was to put your stern to the action and go (away) balls to the wall. A B-40 has the ballistic integrity of a Frisbee after about 25 yards, so you put 50 yards or so between you and the beach and begin raking it with your .50's. (b) Did you ever see anybody get knocked down with a .50 caliber round and get up? The guy was dead or dying. The rocket launcher was empty. There was no reason to go after him (except if you knew he was no danger to you - just flopping around in the dust during his last few seconds on earth, and you wanted some derring-do in your after-action report). And we didn't shoot wounded people. We had rules against that, too. (c) Kerry got off the boat. This was a major breach of standing procedures. Nobody on a boat crew ever got off a boat in a hot area. EVER! The reason was simple. If you had somebody on the beach your boat was defenseless. It couldn't run and it couldn't return fire. It was stupid and it put his crew in danger. He should have been relieved and reprimanded. I never heard of any boat crewman ever leaving a boat during or after a firefight.

Something is very fishy.

Here we have a JFK wannabe who is hardly in Vietnam long enough to get a good tan, collects medals faster than Audie Murphy in a job where lots of medals weren't common, gets sent home eight months early, requests separation from active duty a few months after that so he can run for Congress, finds out war heros don't sell well in Massachusetts in 1970 so reinvents himself as Jane Fonda, throws his ribbons in the dirt with the cameras running to jump start his political career, gets Stillborn Pell to invite him to address Congress and Bobby Kennedy's speechwriter to do the heavy lifting, winds up in the Senate himself a few years later, votes against every major defense bill, says the CIA is irrelevant after the Wall (Berlin) came down, votes against the Gulf War, a big mistake since that turned out well, decides not to make the same mistake twice so votes for invading Iraq, but oops, that didn't turn out so well so he now says he really didn't mean for Bush to go to war when he voted to allow him to go to war.

I'm real glad you or I never had this guy covering out flanks in Vietnam. I sure don't want him as Commander in Chief. I hope that somebody from CTF-115 shows up with some documented facts challenging Kerry's Vietnam record.

I know in my gut it's wildly inflated. And fishy.

This e-mail was written by Mike Morrison, who won a bronze star in Vietnam and who is now retired, but wrote speeches for Lee Iacocca for many years. It was sent to his brother Ed, who sent it to one of our readers who follows such matters. -Ed.-


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1 posted on 02/18/2004 8:06:40 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Wow, that's a fairly severe take-down.
2 posted on 02/18/2004 8:09:43 PM PST by .cnI redruM (The only winner of a Neocon/Paleocan turd-chucking contest is John Forbes Kerry.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Very, very interesting and it parallels things my husband, a Vietnam vet, has said. I agree that things don't add up.
3 posted on 02/18/2004 8:11:34 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
bump
4 posted on 02/18/2004 8:12:13 PM PST by Terp (Retired US Navy now living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
This was on the "Kimmer" show here in Atlanta yesterday. I believe that the guy called in. This email seems to be a transcription of what he said during the phone call.
5 posted on 02/18/2004 8:14:00 PM PST by mikegi
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To: 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; abner; Aeronaut; AFPhys; ...
Interesting opinion here.
6 posted on 02/18/2004 8:14:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I went to the source, and couldn't find the letter. It would be nice to have the URL.
7 posted on 02/18/2004 8:14:26 PM PST by Wumpus Hunter (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Kerry Implosion anyone?
8 posted on 02/18/2004 8:14:56 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I never served in the military- I was 4-F- and I don't know alot about being in a war, but just the high number of medals and the short time I had heard that he was in theater has bothered me from the beginning of the run for the Dem nomination. I smell something here, also.
Please- is there anyone here who can file for Kerry's records under the FOIA? I am too far away and too inexperienced to do it. Or do we assume that Bush already has this info at his fingertips for the Sept/Oct/Nov time period?
9 posted on 02/18/2004 8:16:48 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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Interesting read........
10 posted on 02/18/2004 8:17:29 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Bubba_Leroy
And then there's THIS:

KERRY'S PCF SWIFTBOAT RECORD??

11 posted on 02/18/2004 8:18:02 PM PST by soozla (BUSH/CHENEY 2004**Send John "Effin'" Kerry back to Easter Island!!!!!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
bump bump

Keep this one on top and see what some eyes on it turn up

-tb
12 posted on 02/18/2004 8:18:27 PM PST by tahoeblue
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To: Wumpus Hunter
They only post the back issues on the website. If you subscribe you can get the current issue via e-mail.
13 posted on 02/18/2004 8:18:36 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
It's time to start sending this information around to some news outlets....whether it be local, national...whatevah, people aren't going to be aware of this stuff if we keep it to ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14 posted on 02/18/2004 8:20:41 PM PST by soozla (BUSH/CHENEY 2004**Send John "Effin'" Kerry back to Easter Island!!!!!)
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To: writer33
Not if Chris Matthews, Joe Trippi and Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) has anything to say about it. lol! George Bush is the devil, according to them.
15 posted on 02/18/2004 8:20:45 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Bubba_Leroy
JFK exactly.

JFK got heroe status by screwing up and getting his MTB T-Boned by a destroyer at night. The destroyer never knew he was there, never slowed down.

An MTB was far faster and more maneuverable than a destroyer and it took real skill to manage this.

All this was in 'They Were Expendable' by Commander Bulkelly, covering all the MTB operations out of Corrigidor, published at the end of WWII.
Funny thing, in all the run up to the 1960 election and since, this book has never been reprinted, not even in paperback.

So9

16 posted on 02/18/2004 8:21:24 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: .cnI redruM; snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo; U S Army EOD
Soemthings rotten in Denmark Massachusetts
17 posted on 02/18/2004 8:22:23 PM PST by SAMWolf (Terrorists are vulnerable to silver bullets... and any other bullets.)
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To: .cnI redruM
vedy vedy inveresin
18 posted on 02/18/2004 8:22:49 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com..............................send a FReeper to Congress!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I only had one friend with a bronze star, he refused to talk about it.

19 posted on 02/18/2004 8:23:05 PM PST by mylife
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To: Howlin
Well, though I've had questions about Kerry beaching his boat like he did .. but I never felt I had the right to question it because I wasn't there

Seems this gentleman was there and brings up some good points

I wonder if Chrissy Mathews will have him on his show any time soon?

20 posted on 02/18/2004 8:23:42 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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