SAME-SEX MARRIAGE: 'Bush's Stance Led Newsom To Take Action' (AG Bill Lockyer was given 'heads up')

When is the conservative base going to take to the streets?

FReepers all over California should be organizing some good old American right wing street protests. Picket all the TV stations. Picket the heck out of them.

Start DEMANDING recall, impeachment, prosecution. Or are we just going to sit by and whine about it. Time to get some guts and stand up for something.

"A piece slavering over the clown/fool/criminal NON Catholic "mayor" of SF. It boils my blood how the media calls him "Catholic". Being a Catholic means (correct me if I am wrong) following the teachings of the Catholic Church, no?"

Your ping list..

(You rang?) Did you want me to do something with my Ping list --- Your wish is my command.

Boy oh Boy!!! Say you violate some unconstitutional San Francisco gun ordinance despite the constitution saying that your RKBA shall not be infringed. It won't matter to the powers that be there, they will come down on you (oops, Freudian slip) like a ton of bricks.

It seems appropriate to have some Pro-Family interaction on this thread.

:~)

The homosexual marriage licenses are as valuable as something found in the bottom of a box of Fruit Loops Cereal.

I want to know what the Mayor thinks of other left wing fetish groups getting married - like Foot fetish licenses, Sadomasochist licenses, bestiality licenses, voluntary cannibalism licenses. It's only fair he pass marriage licenses out to them too, unless he's just another footaphobe, beastaphobe, sadophobe, or eataphobe !
Is he a bigot? A hate filled moral right winger? A racist? Why is he leaving all the other fetish groups out? If you cut them, do they not bleed? Do they not have the same rights? Who choses what dysfunctional sex fetish gets to wed, and which does not? Are not all dysfunctional sex fetishes equal? That's blatantly unconstitutional!

(Liberals certainly are vile creature's, aren't they?)

I pung my list earlier up the thread... I think some folks are overwhelmed - I'm pinging 10-20 articles a day! The "gay" agenda people have been busy little fellows lately.

One problem I see is that the moral relativists (of which the "gay" agenda people are kind of the poster children) are motivated by a passionate drive to revolt against the natural order, a kind of "do or die" mentality. But conservatives are in a "it's ok as it is" mentality - many don't realize (or haven't up until now) that this is a war. And the other side are suicidal. It's every bit as dangerous a war as the War on Terror.

If you folks want to see anarchy, wait until Republicans win in a huge landslide in 2004 over this homosexual "marriage" thing.
Most Americans honor traditional values. They won't take kindly to a small handful of sexually dysfunctional people dictating the world their children are going to have to grow up in.
The academic elites are already invalidating the 2004 election. The voting machines are not good enough, they say. They need the multiple ballot butterfly machines to even get close to the numbers Bush is going to rake in.
I know, the polls say it's going to be close, but only a Democrat would be sitting around on their fat arse waiting for the phone to ring hoping to get a call for a one night stand. Republicans have jobs, technology to block calls, and normal families. The last thing they want to do is get hung up on the phone!

...with his partner and their two children.

Actually that's probably not how the law sees it. It certainly isn't how the laws of science see it.

The children are either the offspring of one of the men, or else one of the men adopted them. I doubt that adoption papers have 2 different men's names on them.

Forget about asking if "God is dead" (I believe He lives). It is quite clear that for the past decade "Law is dead" (this is man's domain).

No, it's not anarchy, nor is it "civil disobedience", which is the term they initially applied to their action.

I think I have a better term: Civic disobedience.

actually if it can be proven he hid to facilitate a criminal act, he will loose his law license. (and office.)

The very fact that Mr. Newsom called the State's senior Law Enforcement Official and the Secretary of State, the keeper of the State's Vital Statistics, and was not clapped into irons shows me that State Government Officials are in on this.

A little bit of insider info is useful at this point: the newly elected Secretary of State, former S.F. state assemblyman Kevin Shelley, was previously the chairman of San Francisco's famously radical Board of Supervisors. Newsom was a city Supervisor previous to running for mayor.

Mark Leno, one of those Sacto politicos informed before the fact, is perhaps America's most radical homosexual politician. His beginning in politics -- like Newsom -- was as a Supervisor appointed by a S.F. mayor.

"When three or more parties conspire to carry on an on
going criminal enterprise and/or conspiracy, it can fall under the RICCO Act. ..."

"They called the offices of Pelosi and U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein. They alerted Secretary of State Kevin Shelley, state Attorney General Bill Lockyer, the city's two gay supervisors, Tom Ammiano and Bevan Dufty, and national Democrat Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe. "

I believe federal law has been violated.

Secretary of State Kevin Shelley, state Attorney General Bill Lockyer these two better do something or let the recalls begin.

According to some reports, they were raking in $82 per minute over the weekend in filing fees. Sounds like this one is paying for itself, and then some!

The documents are fraudulent. The mayor not only broke the state law against issuing fraudulent documents, he also fleeced the silly gays out of their money. That's theft.

BTTT !!

"It's every bit as dangerous a war as the War on Terror."

Nawwww.... you're just one of those ulra conservative hacks who sits around all day with nothing to do but conjure up nightmare homophobic lies and propaganda of hate and disgust against the innocent gays and lesbians.

(Did I have you gong? - heheh)

Fact is, that this very reply and this very thread you are now reading is AGAINST THE LAW in Canada. Openly speaking out against homosexuality on television, radio, printed media is AGAINST THE LAW in Canada.

Unless someting is done, and done very, very quickly, we could face stiff fines and even jail time in the United States for speaking out against this . . .

Mass. Supreme Court Rules - Gay Couples have the Right to Marry

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Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned homosexuality.¹ Until 1961 homosexual acts were illegal throughout America.

Gays claim that the "prevailing attitude toward homosexuals in the U.S. and many other countries is revulsion and hostility....for acts and desires not harmful to anyone."³The American Psychological Association and the American Public Health Association assured the U.S. Supreme Court in 1986 that "no significant data show that engaging in...oral and anal sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction."⁴

What Homosexuals Do

The major surveys on homosexual behavior are summarized below. Two things stand out 1) homosexuals behave similarly world-over, and 2) as Harvard Medical Professor, Dr. William Haseltine,³³ noted in 1993, the "changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have occurred in some groups have proved, for the most part, to be transient. For example, bath houses and sex clubs in many cities have either reopened or were never closed."

Homosexual Activities (in %)

		US¹⁶ US¹³US    US¹⁸ Denmark²⁰ US¹⁹  London²⁷  Sydney/London²⁶                                                            Canada²⁵                                                      
		1940s1977 83/84  1983  1984   1983    1985       1991                       
		ever ever  ever in yr in yr  in mo   in mo   last 6mo                                                                                  
oral/penile       83   99  100/99  99    86             67                 
anal/penile       68   91   93/98  95    92     95     100                 
oral/anal         59   83   92/92  63           69      89       55/65       
urine sex         10   23    29/                                              
fisting/toys      22   41/47 34                                       
fecal sex-eating        4     8                                                       
enemas        	       11    11                                               
torture sex       22   37    37                                              
public/orgy sex   61   76    88                                               
sex with minors   37   23    24/

ORAL SEX Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual contacts (and ingest semen from about half of these). Semen contains many of the germs carried in the blood. Because of this, gays who practice oral sex verge on consuming raw human blood, with all its medical risks. Since the penis often has tiny lesions (and often will have been in unsanitary places such as a rectum), individuals so involved may become infected with hepatitis A or gonorrhea (and even HIV and hepatitis B). Since many contacts occur between strangers (70% of gays estimated that they had had sex only once with over half of their partners^17,27), and gays average somewhere between 106 and 1105 different partners/year, the potential for infection is considerable.

RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries,³ gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a year.

Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes a mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial lubricant, 2) the recipient's own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina and no feces are present),⁷ rectal intercourse is probably the most sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host of other blood-borne diseases.

Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with "fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo for objects which are inserted into the rectum--bottles, carrots, even gerbils⁸). The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from such "sport" is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's time that he didn't think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves consigned to diapers for life.

FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,⁵ 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result? --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,²⁶ it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined since 1984.

While the body has defenses against fecal germs, exposure to the fecal discharge of dozens of strangers each year is extremely unhealthy. Ingestion of human waste is the major route of contracting hepatitis A and the enteric parasites collectively known as the Gay Bowel Syndrome. Consumption of feces has also been implicated in the transmission of typhoid fever,⁹ herpes, and cancer.²⁷ About 10% of gays have eaten or played with [e.g., enemas, wallowing in feces]. The San Francisco Department of Public Health saw 75,000 patients per year, of whom 70 to 80 per cent are homosexual men....An average of 10 per cent of all patients and asymptomatic contacts reported...because of positive fecal samples or cultures for amoeba, giardia, and shigella infections were employed as food handlers in public establishments; almost 5 per cent of those with hepatitis A were similarly employed."¹⁰ In 1976, a rare airborne scarlet fever broke out among gays and just missed sweeping through San Francisco.¹⁰ The U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported that 29% of the hepatitis A cases in Denver, 66% in New York, 50% in San Francisco, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal and 26% in Melbourne in the first six months of 1991 were among gays.¹¹ A 1982 study "suggested that some transmission from the homosexual group to the general population may have occurred."¹²

URINE SEX About 10% of Kinsey's gays reported having engaged in "golden showers" [drinking or being splashed with urine]. In the largest survey of gays ever conducted,¹³ 23% admitted to urine-sex. In the largest random survey of gays,⁶ 29% reported urine-sex. In a San Francisco study of 655 gays,¹⁴ only 24% claimed to have been monogamous in the past year. Of these monogamous gays, 5% drank urine, 7% practiced "fisting," 33% ingested feces via anal/oral contact, 53% swallowed semen, and 59% received semen in their rectum during the previous month.

OTHER GAY SEX PRACTICES

SADOMASOCHISM as the Table indicates, a large minority of gays engage in torture for sexual fun. Sex with minors 25% of white gays¹⁷ admitted to sex with boys 16 or younger as adults. In a 9-state study,³⁰ 33% of the 181 male, and 22% of the 18 female teachers caught molesting students did so homosexually (though less than 3% of men and 2% of women engage in homosexuality³¹). Depending on the study, the percent of gays reporting sex in public restrooms ranged from 14%¹⁶ to 41%¹³ to 66%,⁶ 9%¹⁶, 60%¹³ and 67%⁵ reported sex in gay baths; 64%¹⁶ and 90%¹⁸ said that they used illegal drugs.

Fear of AIDS may have reduced the volume of gay sex partners, but the numbers are prodigious by any standard. Morin¹⁵ reported that 824 gays had lowered their sex-rate from 70 different partners/yr. in 1982 to 50/yr. by 1984. McKusick¹⁴ reported declines from 76/yr. to 47/yr. in 1985. In Spain³² the average was 42/yr. in 1989.

Medical Consequences of Homosexual Sex

Death and disease accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual activity. 70%25 to 78%x,¹³ of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms, flukes, amoeba) ranged from 25%¹⁸ to 39%¹⁹ to 59%.²⁰ As of 1992, 83% of U.S. AIDS in whites had occurred in gays.²¹ The Seattle sexual diary study³? reported that gays had, on a yearly average:

fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48;
exchanged saliva with 96;
experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and
ingested fecal material from 19.

No wonder 10% came down with hepatitis B and 7% contracted hepatitis A during the 6-month study.

Effects on the Lifespan

Smokers and drug addicts don't live as long as non-smokers or non-addicts, so we consider smoking and narcotics abuse harmful. The typical life-span of homosexuals suggests that their activities are more destructive than smoking nd as dangerous as drugs.

Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals over the past 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from regular newspapers.²³ The obituaries from the regular newspapers were similar to U.S. averages for longevity; the medium age of death of married men was 75, and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of them died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died old. Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died old.

The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42, and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44, and 20% died old.

Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently. They were 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit suicide; and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure were exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians died of murder, suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly shortened life-span.

The Gay Legacy

Homosexuals rode into the dawn of sexual freedom and returned with a plague that gives every indication of destroying most of them. Those who treat AIDS patients are at great risk, not only from HIV infection, which as of 1992 involved over 100 health care workers,²¹ but also from TB and new strains of other diseases.²⁴ Those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk.²⁴ Those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk.²⁴ Dr. Max Essex, chair of the Harvard AIDS Institute, warned congress in 1992 that "AIDS has already led to other kinds of dangerous epidemics...If AIDS is not eliminated, other new lethal microbes will emerge, and neither safe sex nor drug free practices will prevent them."²⁸ At least 8, and perhaps as many as 30 ²⁹ patients had been infected with HIV by health care workers as of 1992.

The Biological Swapmeet

The typical sexual practices of homosexuals are a medical horror story --imagine exchanging saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of different men each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these encounters occur while the participants are drunk, high, and/or in an orgy setting. Further, many of them occur in extremely unsanitary places (bathrooms, dirty peep shows), or, because homosexuals travel so frequently, in other parts of the world.

Every year, a quarter or more of homosexuals visit another country.²⁰Fresh American germs get taken to Europe, Africa and Asia. And fresh pathogens from these continents come here. Foreign homosexuals regularly visit the U.S. and participate in this biological swapmeet.

The Pattern of Infection

Unfortunately the danger of these exchanges does not merely affect homosexuals. Travelers carried so many tropical diseases to New York City that it had to institute a tropical disease center, and gays carried HIV from New York City to the rest of the world.²⁷ Most of the 6,349 Americans who got AIDS from contaminated blood as of 1992, received it from homosexuals and most of the women in California who got AIDS through heterosexual activity got it from men who engaged in homosexual behavior.²³ The rare form of airborne scarlet fever that stalked San Francisco in 1976 also started among homosexuals.¹⁰

Genuine Compassion

Society is legitimately concerned with health risks-- they impact our taxes and everyone's chances of illness and injury. Because we care about them, smokers are discouraged from smoking by higher insurance premiums, taxes on cigarettes and bans against smoking in public. These social pressures cause many to quit. They likewise encourage non-smokers to stay non-smokers.

Homosexuals are sexually troubled people engaging in dangerous activities. Because we care about them and those tempted to join them, it is important that we neither encourage nor legitimize such a destructive lifestyle.

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