Brinkley Details Kerry's Meetings with 'Hanoi Jane' (Hanoi John and Jane are both liars!)

Newsmax ^ | 2/15/04

[areafiftyone]

Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley revealed Sunday that Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry personally met with "Hanoi Jane" Fonda at least twice during the days when the two played leading roles in the group Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including a never before detailed 1971 meeting in Detroit.

"The Jane Fonda incidents occurred in two places; one on a march from Morristown to Valley Forge when they shared a platform at Valley Forge," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

"Then he met her in the more troubling Detroit Howard Johnson's Comfort Center [event], where there was this thing called the Winter Soldier Investigation."

It had been known that Fonda and Kerry had both helped organize the Winter Soldier protest at a time when he served as the VVAW's National Coordinator and she held the title Honorary National Coordinator.

But Brinkley, who wrote the definitive chronicle of Kerry's war years, "Tour of Duty," is the first authoritative source to suggest that Kerry and Fonda had a face-to-face meeting while organizing the event.

Brinkley's account of Kerry's contacts with Fonda suggests they had a much more extensive relationship than either of them are now willing to admit.

The activist and the top Democrat both offered accounts last week that minimized their contact during the 1970s, with Fonda describing efforts to link her to Kerry as part of a "big lie" campaign to discredit the presidential front-runner.

Of the Valley Forge protest, Fonda told CNN, "I don't know if we even shook hands."

For his part Kerry said through a spokeswoman, "John Kerry and Jane Fonda were just acquaintances."

During Winter Soldier Fonda and Kerry solicited testimony from alleged combat veterans detailing U.S. atrocities, though many of the accounts were later completely discredited.

The Kerry campaign has refused to return multiple phone calls from NewsMax requesting details of the Senator's interaction with Fonda during the Feb. 1971 Winter Soldier event.

On a related subject, Brinkley said that Kerry's Vietnam war wounds, for which he received three Purple Hearts, were not particularly serious.

Asked about the severity of Kerry's injuries, Brinkley told Malzberg, "They were minor wounds."

[faithincowboys]

You want to bet they banged? I'd say there is a 1000% chance of that! Scums like that deserve each other.

I suspect Hanoi John's activities back then will sink any hope he had of being President. It was one thing to disagree with policy, he became an anti-american whackjob!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

We became number two in Viet Nam because of the protesters.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, Jack.

IMO, we became #2 in Viet Nam for the exact same reason the numb-skull liberals want us to be #2 again -- because we did not mount an aggressive, single-minded campaign to destroy the enemy ASAP, and because some liberals think it was okay to let the servicemen in Viet Nam as well as the civilians of 9-11 take the hits.

Thank God President Bush is not Johnson, Nixon nor McNamara.

Thank God he knows the threat is real and how to end a real threat -- by aggressive, single-minded force against the evil-doers who will not bring us to our knees in second place.

We won't be fooled again. Bush and Rumsfeld know how to win.

[Lancey Howard]

Thanks for your reply. So then, that photo is from Washington, DC.

Brinkley says that Kerry and Fonda met "at least" two times, once at Valley Forge and the other time in Detroit. If that is indeed Fonda in the background of the "Dewey Canyon III" photo, then that makes three times.

The thing is, the FBI was certainly at ALL of these anti-war rallies taking pictures of participants. It is what the FBI did back then. Which would mean that there are likely some very clear photos of Fonda and Kerry together somewhere in the FBI's archives. If the FBI has them, then Rove has them.

If Rove has them, I imagine we will be seeing them around August or September.

[areafiftyone]

Its going to be hard to see if that is Jane Fonda. Its a shame we don't have another picture taken without those people standing in front.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

And plenty more than that, if Cashin-Kerry makes it that far.

[Lancey Howard]

Guaranteed, that wasn't the only picture taken at that event.
Eventually, others will show up. Maybe LOTS of others. I mean, along with the FBI, how many newspaper photographers were there? How many tourisrs? Yeah, there's plenty 'o pictures. It's just a matter of time.

[areafiftyone]

I am searching the Vietnam Vets websites. There are many websites that are open for viewing from Vietnam Vets who want to tell their story. They are really very good sites to read if you want to know more from their vantage point. Not surprisingly alot of them are very anti-Kerry. They believe that Kerry used the Vietnam war as a stepping stone for his Senate race.

[CalKat]

I have always read that Kerry did not get out early because of his wounds, and was not discharged, but that he was transferred to the States and served the rest of his time here.

[CalKat]

This morning on Fox News Sunday, someone (I think it was Brit Hume) dismissed this as well, saying that Kerry met with Fonda a full two years before she went to Hanoi.

[CalKat]

You might want to lay off the call for Kerry to release his medical records from the VietNam war. Is Bush releasing his medical records from the National Guard?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The reason I first posted to you earlier is because I thought we shared a common goal. I expect we still do. Go Bush.

Thank you for your service to our country -- and for all those books. 8~)

[CalKat]

Why would Rove have information from John Kerry's FBI file? Wasn't everyone calling it a crime that the Clintons had FBI files?

[Peach]

You are mistaken. Kerry ASKED for and received an early discharge.

You aren't aware also it seems of the Veterans against Kerry organization. Veterans who said his testimony before Congress was shown to them while they were held in POW camps and used as propoganda by our enemy while we had soldiers in the country. No matter what time Kerry met with Hanoi Jane, she is one of the most reviled women in America and he aligned himself with her in the 70's.

[Stentor]

Let him be, for now.....

Finally, a voice of reason is heard. I don't want to have to see Edwards batting his friggin eyelashes.

[Tall_Texan]

You, sir, are either a fool, a knave, or willfully ignorant of what is going on here

I am none of the above. And "what is going on here" is actually a poor attempt to negate Bush's success in Afghanistan and Iraq by trying to associate his behavior in the ANG with his role as CIC. It won't work but it makes no point to revisit what is, politically, ancient history.

Kerry's record has been consistent, as his military and police records, writings and testimonies, personal actions and voting records will show. He has always been a left-wing sychophant, supporting the enemies of America -except when he joined the Navy so he could bolster his credentials for a future office.

Precisely. So argue his record in office which is relevant to his public performance instead of dredging up things that happened so long ago that abortion was illegal. A lot of good people were against the Vietnam War, moderated their views over time and probably now wish they could take back some of the things they said. I don't think Kerry is one of them but there's so much that is far more recent and relevant to 2004 than what he said or did in 1970.

Or would you rather still treat G W Bush as a drunk driver over one arrest in 1975?

I'm all in favor of trashing John Kerry but I'd rather it be over something he's said or done since he became Senator. I think there is plenty to bash him with over that period alone.

BTW, I was born in 1957. Although the war was over by the time I turned 18 (I had a high draft number), I think I have an adequate idea of the issues and passions on both sides of the debate. Since America has normalized relations with the Communist nation of Vietnam (a mistake, IMO), the least we can do as a nation is bury the old divisions from 30 years ago.

[Eva]

It is very relevant that John Kerry testified before congress that ALL veterans of Vietnam were guilty of war crimes, including himself, especially since he could not have been witness to anything other than what his own small swift boat crew had done. It is also relevant that Kerry made statements that he did not think that the US military should ever be deployed other than under the direction of the UN. He refuses to recant his statements. Do you want a president who subjugates the US armed forces to the UN?

[Intolerant in NJ]

You are a liar. Your medals and mine are not a free pass for lifetime, Senator Kerry, to bypass character, integrity, and morality. I earn my green beret over and over daily in all aspects of my life...says it all.....

[CalKat]

Well, according to a thread here, entitled "Three Purple Hearts and Early Discharge for John Kerry, the Walking Wounded" "After his third Purple Heart Kerry requested to be sent home. Navy rules, he pointed out, allowed a thrice-wounded soldier to return to the US immediately. Commodore Charles F. Horne, an administrative official and commander of the coastal squadron in which Kerry served, filled out a document on 3/17/69, that said Kerry had "been thrice wounded in action while on duty incountry Vietnam. Reassignment is requested...as a personal aide in Boston, New York or Wash. D.C. area". This says he was reassigned, notwithstanding the title of the thread.

And Douglas Brinkley says in his book "It was during Kerry's second tour of duty in Vietnam in late 1968 and early 1969 that he encountered the gravest danger as he commanded his boat up dark waterways lined by jungles infested with Viet Cong snipers.

After being wounded for the third time, Kerry asked to be transferred stateside and took a desk job in Brooklyn, NY."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mlp/nation/2402160

I haven't seen anything that says he was discharged, only reassigned.

[Salvation]

**Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley revealed Sunday that Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry personally met with "Hanoi Jane" Fonda at least twice during the days when the two played leading roles in the group Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including a never before detailed 1971 meeting in Detroit.**

Once again Kerry is exposed as a liar.