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FIRST GAY WEDDING IN US (This is outrageous!)
sky news ^ | Last Updated: 09:59 UK, Friday February 13, 2004

Posted on 02/13/2004 10:41:09 AM PST by gdyniawitawa

The US city of San Francisco has become the first civil authority in the United States to officially marry gay couples in open defiance of laws banning the practice.

The city, under the orders of new liberal Mayor Gavin Newsom, officially married at least 15 gay couples and issued marriage licences to around a dozen others.

The landmark move in California came as lawmakers in Massachusetts struggled to thwart a court ruling legalising same-sex marriages in the eastern US state.

A pair of elderly lesbians became the first couple to have their same-sex union officially blessed in San Francisco, challenging a state law that bars same-sex marriages.

A city official officiated at the wedding of Del Martin, 83, and 79-year-old Phyllis Lyon after Newsom ordered city staff to issue marriage licences to gay couples.

Instead of calling couples "bride" and "groom", the wedding licence application listed lesbian couples as "1st applicant" and "2nd applicant."

In Massachusetts, meanwhile, state legislators held a second day of heated debate, as they sought to adopt a constitutional amendment that would specifically restrict marriages to unions between one man and one woman.

The move was deemed necessary after the state Supreme Court ruled in November that same sex couples had the right to marry, and that preventing them doing so violated the state constitution


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; civilunion; firstgaymarriage; homosexualagenda; marriage; sf; stunt
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To: Protagoras
There are philosophical differences, and then there are outright violations of written law.

There are those who call for Bush's impeachment because in their words he's not guarding our borders. That would be a tough sell in light of the fact that the borders are guarded by the Border Patrol and other agencies, so the elevated level of rhetorical chest-beating actually works against them.

Then there is this, a clear (and willful) violation of State Law by an elected official.

Jail time it should be!
61 posted on 02/13/2004 11:50:59 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: weegee
"Did the legislature change the law or are the courts breeching the powers of the judicial branch again?"

Something much simpler...a Mayor gave the law the finger.

62 posted on 02/13/2004 11:51:51 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Protagoras
"Could be a tough sell around here. Folks seem to want to pick and choose which civil servant they excoriate for the same kinds of things."

Riiight. My prediction? This mayor will NOT get the Roy Moore treatment. He won't be arrested or fired. He'll be given a free pass to do what was in many ways a far clearer violation of law than what Moore did.

And that's what angers me about those who called for Moore's head - they won't be even 1/1000th as emotional in calling for this mayor's head - and they'll be mouthing about what hypocrites conservatives are the whole time. GRRRRR.

Qwinn

63 posted on 02/13/2004 11:52:23 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Polybius
Those marriages are not recognized by state law and are therefore not valid.

You must have missed this from the article:

The US city of San Francisco has become the first civil authority in the United States to officially marry gay couples in open defiance of laws banning the practice. The city, under the orders of new liberal Mayor Gavin Newsom, officially married at least 15 gay couples and issued marriage licences to around a dozen others.

64 posted on 02/13/2004 11:52:48 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: gdyniawitawa
If States can pass a law allowing Gay marriage, can they also pass a law allowing a Hunting Season?
65 posted on 02/13/2004 11:52:59 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: presidio9
Wow, do they smell some rotten fish or someting?
66 posted on 02/13/2004 11:54:16 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: presidio9
Are the two old ladies conjoined at the forehead?

The other picture made me spew my coffee.

67 posted on 02/13/2004 11:55:43 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: gdyniawitawa
Nice try, newbie.
68 posted on 02/13/2004 11:56:12 AM PST by b9
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Then there is this, a clear (and willful) violation of State Law by an elected official. Jail time it should be!

You mistake who I'm talking about. The judge in the ten commandments case is as widely applauded as the SF mayor is excoriated.

69 posted on 02/13/2004 12:03:43 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Qwinn
They both are wrong.
70 posted on 02/13/2004 12:05:26 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Instead of calling couples "bride" and "groom", the wedding licence application listed lesbian couples as "1st applicant" and "2nd applicant."

*sigh* It brings to mind that wondrous day nearly eight years ago, when Mr. M and I were joined in holy matrimony, and the pastor said, "You may now kiss the 2nd applicant."

To this day, my husband occasionally refers to me to other people as his second applicant. What a hopeless romantic! Excuse me, I seem to have something in my eye. *sniff*

71 posted on 02/13/2004 12:06:36 PM PST by mountaineer (Metaphors be with you!)
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To: mountaineer; BigWaveBetty; habs4ever; pubmom; Iowa Granny; Endeavor; Aggie Mama; Carolina; ...
If I was stuck for life with a second applicant that looked like that, I would be crying too.


72 posted on 02/13/2004 12:14:40 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Hey Botox Boy, why the long face?)
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To: presidio9
Roberta Achtenberg - Remember her?

She worked for the Clinton Administration.

She used to kiss her "female lover" in parades in SF while driving in a convertible.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke).

73 posted on 02/13/2004 12:15:25 PM PST by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: gdyniawitawa
If Roy Moore can be removed for not following the law, this reneged mayor should lose his job for knowingly violating the law. "Civil disobedience" doesn't mean you don't have to pay the price when you violate the law.
74 posted on 02/13/2004 12:15:47 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
The city, under the orders of new liberal Mayor Gavin Newsom, officially married at least 15 gay couples and issued marriage licences to around a dozen others.

The good mayor can "call" it whatever he wants -- that doesn't make it legal. Period.

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

75 posted on 02/13/2004 12:17:08 PM PST by mhking
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To: gdyniawitawa
Well, if they're going to go with the "two consenting adults" argument, I guess they'll have to issue marriage licenses to incestuous couples. Father & adult daughter want to get hitched? No problem! Twin gay brothers--no problem! Brother & sister want to "keep it in the family"? No problem? Mother & son--make being "Mama's special boy" an official union.

Why not? If both parties are consenting adults, and traditional morality doesn't apply anymore, they shouldn't have a problem with it.

76 posted on 02/13/2004 12:17:16 PM PST by Andiceman
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To: Andiceman
to issue marriage licenses to incestuous couples. Father & adult daughter want to get hitched?

They can avoid estate taxes this way, since giving to the surviving spouse has an unlimited exemption.

77 posted on 02/13/2004 12:27:20 PM PST by heleny (No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: gdyniawitawa
Is this lad conservative?

LOL! I realize you are writing from across the pond and may be unfamiliar w/the big guy, but I just had to laugh.

78 posted on 02/13/2004 12:28:06 PM PST by radiohead
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To: Protagoras
They are both wrong? Perhaps. Doesn't matter. Moore has gotten the political equivalent of the electric chair and his monument carted off, and this Mayor will get invited to all the cool parties and his marriages will be recognized.

You're the one who pointed out the hypocrisy in the Moore camp. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the reality, and the fact that for whatever the cultural conservatives -want-, the reality is that they will be the ones who will get massively screwed by hypocrites, just as they have been for the last thirty years, and people will contine to point the hypocrisy finger at THEM, adding insult to the injury. I ask you, where does the real hypocrisy lay?

Qwinn
79 posted on 02/13/2004 12:30:34 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn
You're the one who pointed out the hypocrisy in the Moore camp.

Nah, I pointed out inconsistency, probably unintentional.

You can put your boxing gloves away.

80 posted on 02/13/2004 12:35:40 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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