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State urged to promote ferry
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle ^ | February 9, 2004 | Rick Armon

Posted on 02/09/2004 6:59:54 AM PST by bc2

Tourism officials seeking $1.5 million and ‘I Love New York' ads in Canada.

By Rick Armon
Staff writer

(February 9, 2004) — Upstate tourism officials are banding together to pressure the state for help in making sure that Canadians are aware of the new ferry on Lake Ontario.

The Spirit of Ontario — a ship capable of carrying about 750 passengers and 220 cars — is to start cruising between Rochester and Toronto at the end of April.

With some critics questioning whether Canadians will hop on board, the tourism officials want the state’s I Love New York agency to target some of its advertising to the province of Ontario.

They also want the state to give at least $1.5 million to local tourism agencies to supplement their efforts to promote Rochester and the Finger Lakes region in Canada.

“We need New York to step up,” said Tim Elie, president of the Greater Rochester Hotel Association.

The participating groups are the Finger Lakes Tourism Alliance, Seaway Trail Inc., the Greater Rochester Visitors Association, the Greater Rochester Hotel Association and six area county tourism offices.

About 25 business and tourism leaders from Rochester and the Finger Lakes will be in Albany on Tuesday, lobbying state officials for money and a commitment.

They said Canadian tourism agencies are planning to spend between $6 million and $8 million on advertising in upstate New York this year, and they worry about this area’s ability to compete successfully for tourism dollars.

But Ellen Flowers, a spokeswoman for the Toronto Convention & Visitors Association, said that figure is much too high.

“We would never spend that kind of money on one market,” she said. The agency is developing its spring and summer program now, and Rochester is always an important target, she said.

Assemblyman Joseph Morelle, D-Irondequoit, chairman of the Assembly’s Tourism, Arts and Sports Development Committee, said it’s important to build awareness about the ferry in Toronto. The state has invested $14 million in the construction of the ship.

“We want to make sure from day one that we’re doing an adequate job of support,” Morelle said.

But with the state facing a budget gap of $4 billion to $5 billion, it might be difficult to find $1.5 million for local tourism agencies, he said.

A study by the Greater Rochester Visitors Association has indicated that for every advertising dollar spent in Canada, at least $33 would be returned in visitor spending and taxes. A $4 million campaign would result in a return of more than $130 million, the study says.

RARMON@DemocratandChronicle.com

By Rick Armon Staff writer

(February 9, 2004) — Upstate tourism officials are banding together to pressure the state for help in making sure that Canadians are aware of the new ferry on Lake Ontario.

The Spirit of Ontario — a ship capable of carrying about 750 passengers and 220 cars — is to start cruising between Rochester and Toronto at the end of April.

With some critics questioning whether Canadians will hop on board, the tourism officials want the state’s I Love New York agency to target some of its advertising to the province of Ontario.

They also want the state to give at least $1.5 million to local tourism agencies to supplement their efforts to promote Rochester and the Finger Lakes region in Canada.

“We need New York to step up,” said Tim Elie, president of the Greater Rochester Hotel Association.

The participating groups are the Finger Lakes Tourism Alliance, Seaway Trail Inc., the Greater Rochester Visitors Association, the Greater Rochester Hotel Association and six area county tourism offices.

About 25 business and tourism leaders from Rochester and the Finger Lakes will be in Albany on Tuesday, lobbying state officials for money and a commitment.

They said Canadian tourism agencies are planning to spend between $6 million and $8 million on advertising in upstate New York this year, and they worry about this area’s ability to compete successfully for tourism dollars.

But Ellen Flowers, a spokeswoman for the Toronto Convention & Visitors Association, said that figure is much too high.

“We would never spend that kind of money on one market,” she said. The agency is developing its spring and summer program now, and Rochester is always an important target, she said.

Assemblyman Joseph Morelle, D-Irondequoit, chairman of the Assembly’s Tourism, Arts and Sports Development Committee, said it’s important to build awareness about the ferry in Toronto. The state has invested $14 million in the construction of the ship.

“We want to make sure from day one that we’re doing an adequate job of support,” Morelle said.

But with the state facing a budget gap of $4 billion to $5 billion, it might be difficult to find $1.5 million for local tourism agencies, he said.

A study by the Greater Rochester Visitors Association has indicated that for every advertising dollar spent in Canada, at least $33 would be returned in visitor spending and taxes. A $4 million campaign would result in a return of more than $130 million, the study says.

RARMON@DemocratandChronicle.com


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I don't know what to say. No Canadians are going to come to Rochester except for a few who have something to do here anyways. I can't wait to ride my bike to Toronto every weekend, that's for sure. Oh well...
1 posted on 02/09/2004 6:59:57 AM PST by bc2
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To: The Mayor; 2right; not-alone; 7SonOfRN; AMVET_66; ANC Vet; BillJonesofNY; birdsman; Bob Eimiller; ..
Upstate New York Ping

please let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from this ping list.

2 posted on 02/09/2004 7:01:04 AM PST by bc2 (http://thinkforyourself.us)
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To: bc2
They should rename it "John K. Ferry" and the press will promote it for them.
3 posted on 02/09/2004 7:01:12 AM PST by Sloth (It doesn't take 60 seats to control the Senate; it only takes 102 testicles.)
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To: bc2
Just one more government boondoggle on top of the $60 million bus station they want to build.
4 posted on 02/09/2004 7:29:48 AM PST by westerfield
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To: Sloth
Are these Canadians in for a surprise when they hit Rochester. I was born there at St. Mary's Hospital about 60 years ago. It WAS a great place to grow up. Now, I roll my windows up to deflect any bullets and pray I get out of the city safely. Rochester is a cruddy, dangerous city. (51 murders last year).

People will go to Niagara Falls or the Vineyard areas by the Canadian Bridge routes at Buffalo or Syracuse. No need for the Rochester Ferry.

Why not improve the beaches (including Durand) for ROCHESTERIANS instead of dumping ferry money down the drain. Check the old photos of Durand at Rochester History Photos. You'll be stunned at what it was and what it is.

5 posted on 02/09/2004 7:33:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: bc2
Visit Exotic ROCHESTER!

The Playground of Lake Erie!

The above image is not to be taken as an actual representation of Rochester.
The body of water depicted is not necessarily Lake Erie. Your experience may vary.

6 posted on 02/09/2004 7:41:07 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Yes, but other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?")
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To: Sacajaweau
I went to the U of R and still have some friends there though I haven't been there for about 25 years. I thought that back in the late 70's they had a largre urban renewal project going on? The kind of thing where you bought an old building for a song but promised to spend money to fix up.
7 posted on 02/09/2004 7:53:14 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
The above image is not to be taken as an actual representation of Rochester.
The body of water depicted is not necessarily Lake Erie. Your experience may vary.

Rochester is on Lake Ontario anyway..

I live here..Lake Ontario is at the top, Lake Erie is @ bottom

8 posted on 02/09/2004 8:04:29 AM PST by The Mayor (Be steadfast, immovable, . . . knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.)
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To: bc2; All
I don't know what to say.

That is pretty thin gruel to hang eco development upon.

What happenned to Xerox [tm], and KODAK???

Remember those QUAINT little letters Xerox used to send out to people who turned Xerox into a generic "xeroxing", asking them to stop misusing their Trademark???

Today they are grateful for the free advertising!!

9 posted on 02/09/2004 8:16:45 AM PST by Lael (Offshore Outsourcing will be solved politically...the process for CEO's will "end badly" !!)
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To: The Mayor
Rochester is on Lake Ontario anyway...

Dang. I knew that didn't seem right. Cleveland, Rochester, I get 'em confused all the time. :-p

OK, take two in my pro-bono work for the Rochester Chamber of Commerce:

Visit Exotic ROCHESTER!

The Playground of Lake Ontario!

The above image is not to be taken as an actual representation of Rochester.
The body of water depicted is not necessarily Lake Ontario. Your experience may vary.


10 posted on 02/09/2004 8:16:49 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Yes, but other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?")
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To: southernnorthcarolina
much better
11 posted on 02/09/2004 8:20:15 AM PST by The Mayor (Be steadfast, immovable, . . . knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.)
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To: westerfield
exactly. the bus station (bust station is more like it) is a horrible idea.

are you in Rochester? would you like to be added to the Upstate ping list?

regards...
12 posted on 02/09/2004 8:38:31 AM PST by bc2 (http://thinkforyourself.us)
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To: Sacajaweau
"When they (Canadians) hit Rochester"... pardon me but IMO it's "if" and not "when" as I do not predict any Canadians coming over on the ferry, at least not to see Rochester.

Are you in the region, and would you like to be added to the ping list?

best regards from the city of Rochester.
13 posted on 02/09/2004 8:42:46 AM PST by bc2 (http://thinkforyourself.us)
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To: bc2
State urged to promote ferry

Excuse me. I thought this story was about a gay affirmative action case.

14 posted on 02/09/2004 8:44:17 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: bc2
I'm in Monroe County. Rochester is my hometown and I have to go there a couple times a month for business. I'm VERY familiar with the city. My parents lived in Rochester until a few years ago.

Would appreciate the Upstate ping. Thanks

15 posted on 02/09/2004 8:50:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: bc2
Yeah, I've live in the Rochester area and would appreciate it if you would add me to your ping lists. Thanks!
16 posted on 02/09/2004 8:58:10 AM PST by westerfield
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To: bc2
I agree...It's an "If"...AT BEST. Of course, no one ever mentions maintenance of the harbor. I remember when they lost their Port Authority status, one of the explanations was the cost of dredging out the Channel every year. Wonder what the maintenance costs are....ya know...all those hidden things....just like a house, Custom House & Employees etc..
17 posted on 02/09/2004 8:58:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: bc2
I'm hoping to ride this thing once before the bankruptcy filing (which will be preceded by the taxpayer bail-out).

I'm sure Canadians can't wait to come over and spend their hard earned money (less 40% exchange rate) to visit Nick Tahou's, Empty Kodak buildings, Midtown Plaza, and our shiny new bus station.

Abbotts however will make a killing, as they should.
18 posted on 02/09/2004 9:15:41 AM PST by Made In The USA (Where is the outrage?!)
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To: bc2
State Urged To Promote Ferry

I thought Massachusetts already did that.

Oh, oops, that's ferry, not fairy.

19 posted on 02/09/2004 10:02:17 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: bc2
Would've been very convenient when I was attending law school upstate and visiting family in Toronto. Of course, then I couldn't have stopped in Casino Niagara...
20 posted on 02/09/2004 11:09:26 AM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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