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Carlie Brucia found, dead
WCBS newsradio, cnn
Posted on 02/06/2004 3:35:51 AM PST by YankeeGirl
Just heard on WCBS newsradio NY that CNN reports Carlie Brucia found dead in Sarasota.
TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 12thcircuit; brucia; carlie; carliebrucia; crime; criminal; death; druggies; getjudgerapkin; judgeharryripken; kidnap; killsmith; legal; manateecty; mandatorysentencing; murder; prosecution; rape; recidivism; ripripkenanuone; ritalin; sarasota; torture
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To: evad
I believe it is in the Book of John where Jesus says something to the effect of ~~ "Whosoever destroys the innocence of a child should tie a milstone about his neck and throw himself into the lake". That does not signify forgiveness of killers/rapists of children to me. At least not by we mere humans.
461
posted on
02/06/2004 8:30:25 AM PST
by
daybreakcoming
(used to be a centrist but the left keeps pushing me right)
To: Agnes Heep
I don't have any unique perspective to offer on this one, or what ought to be done to the perpetrator, but I do think that we, as a society, need to get our priorities straight when it comes to prosecuting crime. We need to focus on murder, sexual assault, and property crimes, and pay less attention to such areas as susbstance abuse. I disagree as drug abuse in the fashion of most abusers leads to deviant/criminal behavior. Given a slap on the wrist like this case made an opportunity for this piece of excrement to strike down an innocent girl.
To: mtbopfuyn
Very good points. Thank you for taking the time to put such a comprehansive list together. I'm going to print it out and go over it with my children. My youngest is a 14 year old male football player who would likely make mincemeat of any attacker, but it never hurts to pass along useful information. He may need to tell his children these things some day.
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, Due to the video the only person who is going to defend this cretin is his lawyer ....thinking back to Westerfield.
If not for that video this guy would be back out looking for another victim before carlie is even buried according to all the chances he has been given.
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posted on
02/06/2004 8:31:47 AM PST
by
alisasny
(Thankyou to all who made 12/28 party so wonderful in NYC)
To: YankeeGirl
Thanks to LIBERALS that animal was walking the streets.
Thanks to a LIBERAL LEGAL SYSTEM he was free to murder.
Thanks to LIBERALS on a jury, he was given just ONE more chance to prey on a child.
Thanks to a LIBERAL judge, he was looking for another woman to rape and destroy.
HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY, FUZZY HEADED FEEL GOOD LIBERALS.
465
posted on
02/06/2004 8:32:41 AM PST
by
Humidston
(Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
To: Beck_isright
I've changed my mind about the judge, now that I've heard the facts behind the hearing.... it's clear the judge acted reasonably under the fact situation and documentation he had.
In fact, he would have acted unreasonably to have revoked parole on the basis of the failed drug test. That failure was technical in nature only. Smith took prescribed medication that caused the positive result.
THe failure to pay fines and costs, I suppose the judge had more discretion. But there were mitigation circumstances that the judge is bound to consider. Unless he had some reason to single out Joseph Smith, or Smith had violated parole in some other way, it would have been VERY unusual to throw Smith back in jail.
466
posted on
02/06/2004 8:35:38 AM PST
by
SarahW
To: Blue Highway
I disagree as drug abuse in the fashion of most abusers leads to deviant/criminal behavior. Given a slap on the wrist like this case made an opportunity for this piece of excrement to strike down an innocent girl. I don't think drug abuse per se has anything to do with the kind of deviant behavior we're seeing here, if you discount the rare occasions when extreme usage might lead to psychosis. I can see where the association might be made, but I don't think it's a good one. This individual is most likely a sociopathic "recreational" killer, who would do what he does regardless of whatever influence drugs might have had on his behavior in the past. You might argue that going out of the way to prosecute such a person for drug use would prevent such a thing from happening, but that would be true only if the penalty for drug use were life imprisonment.
To: NautiNurse; FreePaul; mtbopfuyn; runningbear; Critter
"...his website (**************) is a porn site--no kidding!" I've read about this happening to folks who let their websites go dormant, even Christian sites.
Freeper (Critter) is correct, about this- #118
Pornographers pick up expiring domain names intentionally.
" and "try to profit off of the residual traffic and search engine recognition these site posess."
468
posted on
02/06/2004 8:37:48 AM PST
by
FBD
(...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
To: OldFriend
The private detective is a grown man. He himself should have ended the conversation with Greta.
To: evad
they were forgiving him for the pain he caused themAwww, isn't that special. I've run out of cheeks to turn.
To: clouda
Wow that is freakin unbelievable. The evidence was clear how can a man try to save her from running out into traffic if she is walking on the sidewalk minding her own business, many witnesses see him attacking her, he said "shut up or I will cut you" and tried to drag her over a railing into the bushes. That isn't "freaking out because he had tattoos". How dense was the jury? The evidence was clear and the jury chose to ignore it. The blood is on their hands. Many juries WANT to do something "shocking" and ignore the evidence just like O.J. jury. I don't know how many years he would've gotten even if convicted but they should give life without parole for attempted kidnapping.
To: alisasny
Totally agree with that last bit-
If not for that video this guy would be back out looking for another victimith your last sentence.
I think they are going to be able to link him to the murder of Joyce Wishart, too.
472
posted on
02/06/2004 8:38:45 AM PST
by
SarahW
To: YankeeGirl
When are parents going to realize we live in a different time .. it's just not safe to leave out children outside by themselves. I pray for the parents.
I remember when I was this child's age .. I could spend all day Saturday in my neighborhood playing and my parents did not have to be concerned where I was or if I was safe.
That time has gone forever!
473
posted on
02/06/2004 8:38:45 AM PST
by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
To: clouda
Wow that is freakin unbelievable. The evidence was clear how can a man try to save her from running out into traffic if she is walking on the sidewalk minding her own business, many witnesses see him attacking her, he said "shut up or I will cut you" and tried to drag her over a railing into the bushes. That isn't "freaking out because he had tattoos". How dense was the jury? The evidence was clear and the jury chose to ignore it. The blood is on their hands. Many juries WANT to do something "shocking" and ignore the evidence just like O.J. jury. I don't know how many years he would've gotten even if convicted but they should give life without parole for attempted kidnapping.
To: FITZ
The neighbors might be cocaine addicts themselves and so didn't think his being in prison for multiple drug offenses was any big deal. Once someone kidnaps, they should never be freed.The neighbors might be as well as his roomate/business partner. For someone like this excrement to keep living in a place like Sarasota, he has to have like-minded friends which I'm sure there are alot living in Sarasota/Bradenton as there are alot of drug related addicts in this area.
To: snowstorm12
I think he was able to persuade the jury that he was just a poor, hard luck guy, who was so misunderstood.
She, on the other hand, was an enebriated slut whose testimony was based on misunderstanding his good intentions.
He's probably a very good liar and a master manipulator.
476
posted on
02/06/2004 8:40:52 AM PST
by
SarahW
To: SarahW
The problem I have with most of these judges is that they just look at "recent" history. If he had taken Smith's entire criminal career into context, he could have shipped him off to Ocala for rehab or worse if need be. The reccomendations of the probation officer who dealt with this scum were ignored.
477
posted on
02/06/2004 8:41:02 AM PST
by
Beck_isright
(" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
To: All
It seems appropriate in cases like this that a
torture warrant is a needed tool for law enforcement. When there is a life-threatening situation such as an abduction or potential terrorist activity, and the suspect
will not cooperate, then torture should be used in order to get that information. It cannot be used in order to gain an admission of guilt, only to get information about potential life saving information.
Read Alan Dershowitz's article: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0102/torture.html
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posted on
02/06/2004 8:41:21 AM PST
by
crv16
To: snowstorm12
There's a real good movie to be made here, about how the stupidity of that jury resulted in this death.
Of course it will never be made.
479
posted on
02/06/2004 8:41:26 AM PST
by
js1138
To: Catspaw
I wonder if he had a juvenile record (I'd put my money on it being extensive).But, but we must forgive and forget anything those poor angels with bent halos did in their youth. They must be allowed to start their adulthood with pure white slates.
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