Carlie Brucia found, dead

WCBS newsradio, cnn

[YankeeGirl]

Just heard on WCBS newsradio NY that CNN reports Carlie Brucia found dead in Sarasota.

[Sloth]

LOL

[SarahW]

Nautinurse brought up the murder of a lovely Sarasota art gallery director, Joyce Wishart, a young-looking 61, who was mutilated with a knife by her killer in January.

That judge may be responsible for more than one death. When was the parole hearing?

I note that police told residents and business people not to worry, saying the case seems to be "an isolated incident."

I will never believe that kind of statement again.

I won't be surprised if we find out that Carlie was mutilated, too.

[floriduh voter]

Smith was going to kill himself in the recent past. At that point, someone should have called the PD to get him Baker Acted as a danger to himself or others (considering his past). That didn't happen because it's not politically correct to get involved and his friends probably aren't too bright either. Would you want to hang with this scumbag? Imo, he was a predator but was he on a predator list? There is a predator list - why wasn't he on it??? This was a case of multiple failures.

[NautiNurse]

Czaia ran for FL senateagainst Mike Bennett--not against Katherine Harris.

Abduction trial in 1998

One of Smith's former defense attorneys, C.J. Czaia, recalled that Smith sometimes wore a mechanic's uniform in 1998, when Czaia defended him on charges he attempted to abduct a woman in Manatee County.

Assistant state attorney Brian Iten, who prosecuted the case, said a couple of tourists saw Smith grab a woman and try to pull her into the woods.

Iten said the woman, who was in her 20s, told the jury that Smith said, "I'm going to cut you."

Smith told the jury he was trying to help the woman, who may have been running into the path of a car.

"He had a plausible reason for what he was doing," Czaia said. "He was adamant about his innocence."

Source: Sarasota Herald Tribune

[null and void]

The last time I entered a Catholic church was the day I heard the responsorial prayers calling for an end to the death penalty.

Rather ironic. If the Romans had no death penalty, there would be no Caholic Church...

[epow]

Thanks for the correction. It's been a few years since I was there and I'm sure the area has changed a lot in that time. I just hope the scene is being well protected from the public and the media so the monster's lawyers can't get him off on some technicality due to a contaminated crime scene.

If he gets off again due to a soft headed judge or jury the citizens down there need to administer some old west style necktie party justice themselves, enough is enough.

[floriduh voter]

They transferred the perp to Fort Manatee, whatever that is. Maybe they were afraid of a lynch mob or they're afraid of the media. Small town can't take it.

[floriduh voter]

I think if the Judge disagrees with a verdict, he can issue a directed verdict or something. The jurors were probably alzheimer's patients, sometimes the only people available in Fla for jury duty are not all there.

[Mamzelle]

re: That judge may be responsible for more than one death.)))

And you can't even sue him for malpractice. He's got immunity--no matter how many wrongful deaths he causes.

[floriduh voter]

JUDGE RIPKEN'S VOICEMAIL/PHONE #1-941-861-7972. HE's SOFT ON CRIME and didn't jail Smith because - there are so many urine samples, what am I to do? Seriesly.

[Freedom2specul8]

"Probation official Joe Papy said Circuit Judge Harry Rapkin declined to find Smith in violation, which could have returned Smith to jail."

Sounds like a good freeping letter writing campaign, requesting disbarment is in order!

[mtbopfuyn]

Stinson, who was 20 at the time, struggled, lost her footing and fell down, then offered Smith $50 to leave her alone. He jumped on top of her. "If you don't quit screaming, I'll cut you," Smith said, according to records. Smith pulled her up by her shirt, but she squirmed away, landing in oncoming traffic. A van stopped to help her, she said. The people in the van jumped out, armed with golf clubs to fend Smith off, but he fled.

Smart gal for struggling, screaming and getting out of her shirt to get away. She called attention to herself which saved her life. This morning I had a long discussion with our kids on avoiding getting taken. Not blaming Carlie a bit, but she did have options she failed to act upon. 1) Be away of your surroundings. 2) She let the sicko get too close. Never let anyone get within arm's distance. Don't let strangers enter your "space". 3) Listen to that inner voice telling you something isn't right. She seemed to have hesitated and almost stepped back but didn't follow through. 4) Never talk to strangers. She stopped and allowed contact. Doesn't matter if he had a gun. Doesn't matter if he had an ID showing he was a security guard for the car wash. 5) She didn't avoid him, walk around him, or run away, and she allowed him within her space. This signalled to him she was vulnerable and an easy victim. 6) She had a weapon - her backpack. She may have had time while he approached her or was talking to her to take off her backpack. Once she was grabbled she or in the car use the backpack to hit him. 7) After she was grabbed - NEVER ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE TAKEN TO THE SECOND SCENE! Time and time again we've been told the second scene is where victims are killed. Once he grabbed her arm - twist, kick, hit, scream your lungs out, whatever it takes. If you can't get away then go limp and fall to the ground to gain time. It's hard to pick up 120 lbs of dead weight quickly. If he does pick you up then start fighting again. He will have his hands occupied by holding you but you have your arms and legs free. Gouge eyes out and bite. 8) Scream, kick over trash cans, kick the building, kick the car, whatever makes noise to draw attention. 9) NEVER GET IN THE CAR! Your legs are stronger than your hands so kick the sicko or use legs to delay him putting you in the car. 10) He has you in the car - A car is a weapon. He tells you to sit still, be quiet or he'll kill you - screw him. Go crazy!!! Hit him, kick him, kick his driving leg especially, grab the steering wheel, put it in reverse, turn on radio loud, kick windows, roll windows down, start pulling wires under the dash, honk horn, hit him with the back pack or whatever you can get out of the backpack (pencil, sharp cornered book, toy with pointy edges). Do NOT be afraid of wrecking the car. You have a much greater chance of surviving an accident than you do at the second deadly scene. An accident will draw attention, people will come, police will come, the ambulance will come. The sicko will be more concerned in saving his hide than you. Most likely he will quickly escape the scene and you will be safe. 11) Role play. Review, review, review. Think of scenerios and what you would do. The more you can think of the more automatic you can be in your reactions and avoidances of dangerous situations. Carlie had mere seconds before he got her to the car and probably only an hour before she was killed. If you've gone over and thought about what to do in those precious few moments, it may save your life. Again, I'm NOT putting any blame on Carlie however our children can learn from her mistakes. Prayers for Carlie and the other children who have been taken from us.

[Beck_isright]

"Judges sit on the bench and are accountable to no one!!!!"

Being accountable to God doesn't scare these judges because many of them are demorat socialist atheists. Something has to change.

[floriduh voter]

He was a predator for quite some time. The other "women" fought back. Going younger worked like a charm. It's also been raised that maybe he's responsible for the murder of an art gallery owner in that area who was mutilated by a knife. He told one of his other victims "I am going to cut you." HE SOUNDS SERIAL TO ME.

[Squantos]

If such was to happen to my loved one I'd fight tooth and nail to free the murderer from jail. Then ensure a very slow , painful horrific death vs the kid glove peaceful death this trash will get via injection.

Sadly in your sisters case they never found the killers if I remember your discussion of that event correctly.........It's all about justice IMO but a lack of justice these days warrants vengence. Draconian measures are a deterent to criminal acts. Until such is adopted we will experience such losses of loved ones at the hands of criminal trash.

Trust me on this Texasproud. You story was instrumental in the arming of my Mother , Girl Friday and Sister with gifts of S&W 340's and proper training that included CHL's here in Texas.

Pamwe Chete.........Stay Safe !

[NautiNurse]

They transferred the perp to Fort Manatee, whatever that is.

Never heard of it

[in the Arena]

CNN reports a DNA link between the child and Smith's car has been made.

fry him...and prosecute the bastards that let him roam...

[Beck_isright]

"In never ceases to amaze me that people like John F'n Kerry are against the death penalty for people who harmed innocent lives (Smith, McVeigh, OBL), yet blindly accept the killing of innocent babies who are unable to protect themselves. It is one more of those "inconsistenties" that remind us the total depravity of those who think it is okay to take the life of another."

J fn Kerry could care less about the innocent life of an 11 year old girl. He wants power to make a profit for his wife and their own personal fortunes. Ideology, right and wrong, and the people be damned.

[mtbopfuyn]

So he DOES have a pattern of attacking women. I wonder how many more unreported attacks are out there.

Exactly. Bet he started out hitting girlfriends who never reported him. Then it escalated to a few date rapes and stranger rapes, again going unreported or he was never ID'ed. These people don't just wake up one day and decide to kidnap and murder a child, there is always an escalating history.

[Beck_isright]

"RAPKIN HAS NO QUALMS ABOUT EVICTING CHRISTIANS however..."

Another example of the continuing decline of our civilization.