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Stick With President Bush In November (Good Reasons NOT To Stay At Home) (My Title)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 01/31/04 | Henry Lamb

Posted on 01/31/2004 4:55:14 AM PST by goldstategop

The most serious threat to President Bush's second term is not a Democrat; it is the growing mass of disenchanted Republicans who are accepting the proposition that there is little or no difference between the two major parties.

"Where are they going to go?" says a well-placed Bush operative. "You know they'll never vote for Dean or Kerry. And there's no Ross Perot on the horizon."

Where will they go? Nowhere. And that's the point. Republicans, especially the more conservative variety, are likely to stay home in droves. So far, the Republican strategists appear to be oblivious to this possibility.

Perhaps conservative Republicans expected too much too soon from a Republican administration. The Democrats had eight years to fill the agencies of government with activists from their special-interest groups. It is true that President Bush quickly dumped the most egregious of these types, whose positions are political plums. The underlings hired by the political appointees, however, are protected by civil-service regulations and cannot be fired, or even reassigned, without non-political justification.

The disappointment of conservatives goes much deeper and questions the fundamental philosophy which guides the administration. After eight years of watching the Clinton-Gore team march the United States directly into the jaws of a global socialist government, Bush supporters expected a screeching halt and a major course correction.

Conservatives cheered Bush's withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol – a screeching halt and a major course correction – while socialists abroad and Democrats at home condemned the president.

When Bush defied the U.N. Security Council, and created a multi-national coalition to eliminate Saddam Hussein, conservatives split, some cheering the action, some joining the Democrats at home and socialists abroad who condemned the action.

The Patriot Act, the prescription drug program, the "guest worker" program, the so-called "free trade" programs and a half-trillion dollar deficit have left conservatives reeling, wondering why a Republican administration and Congress have produced results that look so much like what they would expect from a Democrat administration and Congress.

Consequently, many, many Republicans have thrown up their hands and have decided to either join some doomed third-party movement or simply stay home.

While this reaction may be understandable, it is not only self-defeating, it violates the first law of true believers: Never, never, never, never give up!

It is true that Republican hold the White House and a razor-thin majority in Congress. It is also true that the nation is divided, almost down the middle, between people who want to continue the Clinton-Gore path toward global socialist government and those who want to abandon that path and move the United States toward more individual freedom, free markets and voluntary cooperation among sovereign nations.

Rather than give up and stay at home, a better strategy may be for conservatives to realize that the election of President Bush in 2000, and securing a slim majority in Congress in 2002, is just the first step in a long journey. Conservatives should realize that it takes 60 senators to prevail over the Democrats' filibuster.

Rather than throw in the towel, conservatives might throw their effort into the campaigns of conservative candidates for the House and Senate, and for the state legislatures and county commissions.

The global socialist agenda moved into high gear after the fall of the Berlin Wall, aided dramatically by the progressive Democrats in the United States. The Bush election in 2000 disrupted that agenda, and to them, nothing is more important than removing the Bush obstacle. Conservatives who decide to give up and stay at home will be aiding and abetting the enemies of freedom.

A return to progressive Democrat leadership in the United States is a return to the Kyoto Protocol and U.N. control over energy use in the United States. It is a return to subservience to the United Nations – as Howard Dean says, to get "permission" from the U.N. before defending our nation. It is a return to total government control over land use, education and every other facet of life.

In 2000, conservatives barely got a foothold on the bridge of the ship of state. In 2002, conservatives began to get a grip on the wheel. In 2004, conservatives have an opportunity to bring on more hands and to permanently discharge some of the progressive Democrats who continue to fight desperately for control.

Democrats alone cannot regain control. If conservatives give up, throw in the towel and fail to show up for the November battle, the Democrats will win by default. Conservatives who truly believe that freedom is better than socialism, those who want freedom for their children rather than a world socialist government, will never, never, never, never give up. They will show up in November.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; 2004election; conservatism; conservatives; electionpresident; endorsement; gwb2004; henrylamb; presidentbush; staythecourse; ussenate
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
101 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:05 AM PST by NHResident
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
102 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:15 AM PST by NHResident
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
103 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:16 AM PST by NHResident
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
104 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:16 AM PST by NHResident
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
105 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:17 AM PST by NHResident
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
106 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:18 AM PST by NHResident
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To: NittanyLion
I live in North Massachusetts (formerly New Hampshire)- I never thought I would say this but myself and a lot of other conservatives up here are considering voting against Bush.

A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread about how and why we should support Bush. He has accomplished some significant things BUT he keeps initiating programs whose financial impact will last far longer and be far more burdensome than any good from his temporary tax cuts.

We think his foreign program is excellent as long as he sticks to it (even that is looking shakey). But Bush's domestic initiatives combined with his yielding presitige and power to the Kennedys, Clintons, and the rest of the left supported by the REPUBLICAN and RINO majority (spineless Hatch, globe-trotting Dr. Frist) makes supporting the Republicans look pointless.

Bush is handicapped by his small majority but he has spent and sponsored legislation that GREATLY increases the size and power of the federal government in programs that can not and will not be stopped or reversed.

IF his grand strategy was to cut off chunks of liberal and Democrat special interests - from what we gather during 'intelligence gathering' excursions into Massachusetts and discussions with the mind-numbed robots there - it appears that the gain has been far smaller and far less significant than the price. Conservatives win by being conservatives NOT weak-kneed liberals.

While it is too early to write off the next election, next fall will NOT be pretty.
107 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:18 AM PST by NHResident
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To: goldstategop
Consequently, many, many Republicans have thrown up their hands and have decided to either join some doomed third-party movement or simply stay home.

Nonsense, I'm not joining any group or party.

The last Bush/Cheney mailing I received, I returned and instructed them to remove me from their mailing list.

I'm not staying home either, I plan on spending election night at the bar.

108 posted on 01/31/2004 6:29:55 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: goldstategop
It is like whistling past the grave, making assumptions like this where the consequence of being wrong, where the popular sentiment is contrary to the assumption, and where there really is no solution other than to reverse course (GWB must renounce his anti-constitutional positions) is fatal.

If GWB did not learn from his father he is doomed to relive history.

Unless things change drastically, I will chose to have a divided government. It can't be any worse, and, the GOP will be forced to earn my vote in the future. That always means they get conservative, again.
109 posted on 01/31/2004 6:31:47 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: patj
I agree. But Democrats would be much, much worse! The Democrat Party has deteriorated so far that it must be defeated. This "Party" must not be allowed to influence the United States any further. That's how bad things have gotten.
110 posted on 01/31/2004 6:33:05 AM PST by Savage Beast ("The terrorist threat has been exaggerated." ~J.F. Kerry <September 11 was exaggerated too???>)
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To: steve50
Why don't you try to convince medical students with 200k in debt to become medical doctors that their loans would be even higher????
111 posted on 01/31/2004 6:33:22 AM PST by chris1
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To: All
I unashamedly support President Bush. Not because he is perfect but because he will secure our future for us where the libs won't. Sheeesh! With so called conservatives like the ones who posted here, we might as well surrender to the Frenchies and the UN now.
112 posted on 01/31/2004 6:34:08 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: goldstategop
"If that's really the thinking in the White House, they shouldn't be surprised if the President does lose in November. Should that happen, its not the end of the world. Gridlock would be preferable to a President pushing a socialist agenda through a Republican Congress under the euphemism of "compassionate conservatism."

I'm convinced that's the thinking of the White House. The illegal alien amnesty proves it. He knew conservatives would be outraged, and didn't care. There's a pattern here, not just isolated events. He wants the vast amorphous middle and isn't concerned about the edges, and he probably thinks that he never really had a conservative base. Of course, you have to ask yourself, what about his principles? I'd rather not have to answer that one.

As for gridlock, there's a lot to be said for it, considering what we've seen as the alternative. It's obvious now that Compassionate Conservatism simply means buying votes and pandering to anyone that they think can be bought.

Unless we threaten dire action, such as staying home in November, then we have no control or influence over our party. Unfortunately, if what I believe is true, then we conservatives have no control or influence regardless. And to think that people where upset at Bush 41! He was a model of conservatism compared to GWB.

Disclaimer: I'm not recommending staying home on November 2.

113 posted on 01/31/2004 6:37:24 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: Savage Beast
The differences between Democrats and Republicans is like comparing the Teamsters with the Teacher's unions. All are too self involved to have our interests at heart. Where in our constitution does it say that our political mechanisms must be operated and subverted by two political parties?
114 posted on 01/31/2004 6:38:40 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: chris1
Why don't you try to convince medical students with 200k in debt to become medical doctors that their loans would be even higher????

What's that got to do with taking benefits away from people who paid for them so we can buy friends and influence people the world over, or put a man on Mars so we look good to the electorate? Is it their fault we gave their SS taxes to alcoholics for disabled SS claims?

Most of the elderly paid their fair share, now this younger generation expects their children to pay for a new set of perks. Pay your debts to the generation that paid your way before you burden a whole new generation to pay for your new toys.

115 posted on 01/31/2004 6:45:01 AM PST by steve50 ("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
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To: mathluv
CFR - increases hard money - Unconstitutional

No Child Left Behind - holds schools/teachers accountable for teaching - Socialist pork - won't fix anything

Medicare expansion - reform built in - medical savings accounts - More big government wealth transfers New Deal BS

Wetback amnesty - Dubya campaigned on this - So what, it's wrong

He is keeping his campaign promises. Why is everyone acting betrayed? - I don't feel betrayed, I didn't vote for him in 2000

Partial birth abortion ban - never from a dim - Ok, I can accept this

telling the UN to act or be irrelevant - the dims want them in charge - He continues to send OUR money to them, his actions speak loudest

Bottom line, his leadership has not given us the government we deserve.

116 posted on 01/31/2004 6:45:36 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: ARCADIA
I'm glad that you aren't advocating staying home election day. I am probably going to make everyone mad but blowing off steam and expressing anger at Bush is fine. But please, when it comes time to vote please please vote! Our kids future depends on it! I don't think anyone really understands how very important it is not to let a liberal in the white house!
117 posted on 01/31/2004 6:46:09 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: The Wizard
A traitor to what? My state? The collective of states in the union? Or just the party? I look to principle and intent of the Founders first, then the party. That's not a traitor, that's a patriot
118 posted on 01/31/2004 6:46:39 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: ARCADIA
Based on you last reply, can a third party ever succeed? For the purposes of discussion, wouldn't it be interesting to engage in lively debate on how such a party could be formed, the kind of leadership and names of people to carry out the challenge, the sort of platform that voters would be interested in supporting, the states where such a party could get a foothold. I believe if Perot wasn't such a clown right to the end that Perot's movement was the start of something great. But, was it too nationalistic, too white, too patriotic, too smart, too constitutional and too unrealistic?
119 posted on 01/31/2004 6:47:25 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: yoe
ATTENTION: Yoe speaks the truth:
"There will be many frauds to keep President Bush out of the White House this next election; during the primaries watch the states that use electronic voting machines – closely"

"Don’t let the propaganda blind you to the facts i.e., 'tax cuts for the rich – President Bush lied to the American people – Castro’s claim that President Bush is out to kill him...'"

"Stay with this President; he is doing a superb job for the country."

"The press will try to run this election."

DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA OF THE PRESS OR THE DEMOCRATS. IT CAN BE VERY SUBTLE! IT CAN BE VERY DECEPTIVE!

PRESIDENT BUSH MUST BE RE-ELECTED!

THIS WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION SINCE 1860--MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

DO NOT FAIL THE UNITED STATES.

DO NOT FAIL FUTURE GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS.

RE-ELECT PRESIDENT BUSH! VOTE! GET OUT THE VOTE!

120 posted on 01/31/2004 6:47:31 AM PST by Savage Beast ("The terrorist threat has been exaggerated." ~J.F. Kerry <September 11 was exaggerated too???>)
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