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Katie & Matt Trash Dean, Elevate Kerry, as Dean Gives "Subliminable" Hint about Withdrawal
The Today Show

Posted on 01/20/2004 5:02:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Edited on 01/20/2004 5:07:54 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

It wasn't only Iowa Dems who voted. The liberal media have too. And to judge by the performance of Katie Couric and Matt Lauer on this morning's Today Show, Dean is dirt and Kerry's the man.

"A pretty impressive showing," said Katie with a smile regarding Kerry's victory at the top of the show.

"The man whose campaign was all but left for dead has won Iowa after a stunning turnaround."

"Howard Dean goes home with a third-place finish."

Katie greeted Kerry with the warm smile she reserves for Dem faves. "How do you pull this off?", she asked, her voice chirpily rising and almost breaking.

Surprisingly, though, Katie did ask some tougher questions. She mentioned that some are crediting his "deep pockets" for the win, and quoted someone from the Washington Post to the effect that it's not healthy for a candidate to be able to bankroll his own campaign.

Kerry pointed out he was outspent "by an opponent" (Dean).

Katie: "Will you continue to hammer Edwards on his lack of experience and are you concerned Clark will co-opt Iraq issue?"

Kerry: "I have run a positive campaign, but there are important differences among the candidates. We need a candidate with significant foreign policy and domestic experience."

Katie: "The landscape is littered with candidates who won in Iowa and didn't go on to win the nomination. How much are you making out of your victory?"

Kery: "I'm not making anything out of it. I'm here in NH, I'm the underdog here."

The funny dynamic was that Katie wanted to talk horse race, and every time Kerry got to open his mouth, out would spill his canned spiel. The look on Katie's face made it obvious she was somewhat exasperated by his canned comments. Kerry was being very disciplined and playing it safe. This was annoying, but for a guy who wants to portray himself as presidential and safe, it might actually help him.

The on to a brief interview with Edwards by Matt Lauer. "Prior to election night, your aides were quietly circulating the notion that 'third was first', so what does second do for you?"

Naturally, Edwards thought it was "a huge boost."

Can you remain positive attitude now that you have become a front runner and will come under attacks? "My positive approach is not a strategy, it is who I am. [A little vanity creeping in?] That doesn't mean I won't respond if someone attacks me."

Lauer: Kerry has commented on your lack of experience, the "still in diapers when I was getting back from Nam" comment.

Edwards: "The truth is I've worked very hard on issues of national security, and am on intelligence committee, worked on legislation to make country safer (of course he won't mention the Patriot Act by name!), have traveled to foreign countries and met with leaders and with intelligence community at home."

There was some refreshing frankness: "To be honest, the vote in Iowa was a surprise. I have no way of knowing what will happen in NH." He also said that he was not a good enough of a politician, during the week of the NH primary, not to admit that he was rooting for the Carolina Panthers against New England in the Super Bowl. "There my team!"

Then it was on to an interview by Katie of Dean: "What happened?" Dean: "I was the front runner and I took a lot of flak. It was tough but I got a ticket out of Iowa and now I hope to do well in NH."

Katie: "The more positive candidates did well. Do you wish you had been less pugnacious in your ads?"

Dean: "They weren't that tough. Kerry's mailings were in fact much tougher. He wouldn't be known as being so positive if people knew what was in those mailings."

Katie: "After the results came in, you gave a fired up speech. Some people thought you would implode. Some say you looked like the [borderline psycho character from the movie Network shouting "we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore]. At the same time Kerry remained senatorial in his demeanor. Did you get out of control and over the top?"

Dean: "There were 3500 young people who turned up and they deserved a little fun - we're going to have fun in this campaign."

Next came what I consider the highlight of the entire segment, what I'd describe as a political Freudian slip in which Dean envisioned defeat and withdawal.

Katie asked: "In a lot of people's minds, the issue is electability. Many Iowans seemed to say that when they voted for Kerry and Edwards."

In response, the cocky pre-Iowa Dean would surely have boasted that he was going to win the race. Instead, Dean spoke quietly of being the only person in the race "who's ever balanced a budget or delivered health care."

He then added "that's the kind of campaign I'm going to run for as long as I'm in it, and then, realizing the implications of what he had just said, hastily added, "and I expect to be in this campaign for a long time."

A "long time"? Not "to the end," or "until I win"? Some of the strut has gone out of the bantam rooster.

Next came a Lauer interview with Tim Russert. Can everyone agree that Russert never has an original thought or a bold prediction? He is useful only as a barometer of the most conventional of conventional wisdom.

Lauer was also clearly transfixed by Dean's screaming, over-the-top performance in his post-results speech.

Lauer: "Did Dean's speech show why some voters are uncomfortable with him?" Russert agreed (you'll notice that Russert will almost always agree with whatever question is being pitched to him. His favorite response is an enthusiastic "absolutely!")

Said Russert: "Dean seems too angry, too liberal. What character and temperament does he want to show?"

Russert spoke of the moment where Dean told a critic at a rally to sit down and shut up as a turning point that got very wide play.

Russert concluded with yet another trite piece of conventional wisdom: "this is going to be a three- or four-way race for some time to come."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; demprimaryrace; edwards; gephardt; iowa; iowacaucuses; kerry; todayshow
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Actually, I expect the press to turn their focus on Edwards, and not in a positive way. He's too dangerous a threat to Hitlery's ambitions. Win the nomination, and he could beat Dubya, which means no coronation for the Witch in 2008. Do well in the primaries, but get edged out by Kerry, and he's a viable candidate in 2008. She's already looking at a likely fight with Algore, and Edwards could sneak in and steal the whole thing. Therefore, he's got to be stopped now. I believe he's the real reason the Clintons got Ashley Wilkes to jump into the race to offset him in the southern primaries.
61 posted on 01/20/2004 6:07:39 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("Mr. Dean is God's reward to Mr. Bush for doing the right thing in the war on terror."-Dick Morris)
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To: Alberta's Child
Interesting.

If Lieberman drops out, and with Gephardt already gone, that does seem to leave the South wide open for Edwards. If Edwards can survive NH, he could go on a roll.

Then again, I heard last night that no one has ever won the nomination without finishing first or second in NH. On the basis of his IA victory, you have to assume Kerry will finish in the top two. That means that Edwards would have to beat out Clark, the current front runner. Things are very fluid and it could happen, but it'll be a wild week to come!
62 posted on 01/20/2004 6:09:25 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: mountaineer
After last night it is easy to see why Dr. Judy stay far far away from Howie..........she must be praying he keeps his word and keeps on going and going and going....far away from home.
63 posted on 01/20/2004 6:12:02 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: mountaineer
After last night it is easy to see why Dr. Judy stays far far away from Howie..........she must be praying he keeps his word and keeps on going and going and going....far away from home.
64 posted on 01/20/2004 6:12:25 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"and leaves the path open for Hillary in 2008?"

Have you seen th' witch lately? By 2008, she's going to need to have been on "Extreme Makeover" in order not to scare small children by her looks. Time is not being kind to her.

Michael

65 posted on 01/20/2004 6:15:18 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I forget who said it last night on MSNBC but Dean's necktie was said to resemble a tourniquet...
66 posted on 01/20/2004 6:18:28 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Wright is right!
Interesting. One of the knocks on Gephardt that I heard last night from more than one pundit was that he was too old. He's 62. By 2008, Hillary will be . . . 61.
67 posted on 01/20/2004 6:19:02 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Wright is right!
Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind

If only Ben Affleck had read that before it was too late.

68 posted on 01/20/2004 6:21:20 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Seems like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you accept contributions, you're the lackey of the special interests. If you finance your own campaign, freeing yourself from any special interests, somehow that's "not healthy."

Yes, well the libs would like us, the taxpayers, to finance campaigns. And no doubt, like the mad Mullahs in Iran, they'd like to decide which candidates are "acceptable" to contend.


69 posted on 01/20/2004 6:22:57 AM PST by jocon307 ( The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What a great post!!!

I was wondering what colic was thinking this morning - wish I could've seen the dean interview w/her!

70 posted on 01/20/2004 6:23:06 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: SunnyUsa
Thanks, Sunny, glad you enjoyed it. Ain't politics fun?
71 posted on 01/20/2004 6:25:17 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm not sure the Democratic Party is sold on Edwards, especially since he his approval ratings in his home state of North Carolina are so mediocre. After the Clinton disaster, I suspect a lot of Democrats are going to be very relulctant to nominate another smooth-talking Southern lawyer for a long time.
72 posted on 01/20/2004 6:29:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
[ Instead, he confirmed the absolute worst that people thought about him, and effectively destroyed whatever was left of his candidacy. ]<p.
The gaffs of leno, letterman, Conan, and even Kilborn did'nt do Dean any good either...
73 posted on 01/20/2004 6:32:02 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
Maybe Billy Bob Thornton can play Howard Dean in a movie someday, a/la "Slingblade."
74 posted on 01/20/2004 6:32:07 AM PST by SamAdams76 (They said I wasn't right in the head so they put me in a nervous hospital instead of the White House)
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To: hosepipe
I only see what those guys have to say when clips are picked up by the news shows (Brit Hume often plays Leno and Letterman clips at the end of Special Report). But there's no doubt that when you become the butt of humor, it doesn't bode well. Then again, Bill Clinton survived it and flourished.
75 posted on 01/20/2004 6:36:31 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Anybody else notice that Yaaaawn Kerry's wife wouldn't let him kiss her at his victory celebration?? Another Rat marriage arrangement??? They may be stranger than the Dean's marriage?

Pray for W and The Truth

76 posted on 01/20/2004 6:38:58 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY and Her 9-4 Flying Monkeys are In Flames!)
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To: bray
According to Estrich on Hannity and Colmes, Kerry has a roving eye, and a reputation for entertaining the ladies, much like Clinton.

(I wonder if that is a rumor to stir up sex appeal for Kerry, and get the women vote? Blech.)
77 posted on 01/20/2004 6:43:26 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (He who has never hoped can never despair.)
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To: hosepipe
(Hey there - long time no FR-speak. f/k/a MadAsHell)
78 posted on 01/20/2004 6:43:42 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: bray
I missed that. I did see at one point that he dragged her from the other side of the podium and stood behind her with his arms wrapped around her. Who knows the dynamics of their relationship, but there's no doubt that Kerry looked much better in victory than Dean did in defeat.


79 posted on 01/20/2004 6:43:58 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Kerry has a roving eye, and a reputation for entertaining the ladies.

I just went over to the Kerry for President official web site, and of all things found a section entitled "Calling All Women for Kerry!"

80 posted on 01/20/2004 6:45:53 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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