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Why is there a bias against interracial dating?
AJC ^ | 1/10/04 | AJC

Posted on 01/10/2004 7:02:50 PM PST by freedom44

Shaunti Feldhahn, a right-leaning columnist, writes the commentary this week and Diane Glass, a left-leaning columnist, responds

SHAUNTI FELDHAHN for ajc.com

As a kid, I never realized there was a bias against interracial dating -- or that any serious racial bias still existed. Like most kids in the Washington, D.C.-area melting pot, I grew up around everyone from the children of African diplomats to kids who came over on the boats from Cambodia. My classmates spoke every language and lived in everything from luxury lake homes to public housing. Our dinner guests were just as likely to be from Nigeria or India as from Kansas or California.

After graduation, I left home for a summer waitressing job at a Colorado guest ranch, completely unaware that my multi-racial upbringing had been unusual. I learned fast.

Twenty young staffers came to the ranch from all over the country, and we girls put up pictures and frills to make each bunk our own. One evening, I showed another waitress my snapshots. She gestured at a Homecoming picture of me and my best friend with our dates, standing in front of my date's vintage Mercedes.

"And who is this," she asked, "your chauffer?"

"No, silly," I laughed, "he's my date."

"Your date?" She pulled away, appalled that I would go to Homecoming with a black friend. She stood up, walked out of the room and never spoke to me again. From then on, she communicated through other staff members. "Mary, tell Shaunti to fill the syrup bottles."

Word got around quickly. The next morning, the two cooks -- two young men who had been my friends -- started chanting, "once you go black, you never go back" over and over again. I was horrified, and had no idea how to respond. They were merciless the rest of the summer, and I received a ruthless and swift education.

Why is there a bias against interracial dating, especially between blacks and whites? Almost certainly, people with that bias are people who have no close friends of other races. And unfortunately that's still a sizeable population. Once you have spent time with each other, cried on each other's shoulders, worshipped together at church, or played games long into the night at each other's homes, somehow the idea of their daughter dating your son becomes a non-issue.

And that relationship, by the way, is what makes the difference between giving politically-correct lip service to racial diversity and having a real love for one another as people, and a desire for community.

The problem is, there will always be those who choose to wall themselves off from those friendships, whether out of subtle discomfort or hard-core bigotry. But in most cases, no wall is wanted. It's just that someone of another color seems different. And they are different. We all are. A rich mixture of different elements makes us all who we are -- including our race, gender, economic background, faith, beliefs and interests. That's what makes relationships so interesting and worthwhile, including dating relationships. And because racially biased people have never experienced it, they don't understand what a blessing that diversity can be.

Rebuttal Diane Glass AJC columnist

Shaunti gets a gold star for political correctness. I don't think many would disparage her heartfelt experience. But asking "why is there racism" isn't nearly as interesting or provocative as asking what you are going to do in the face of bigotry? We all know racism exists. Knowing something doesn't change it. Doing something does.

After Shaunti faced racism head on, what did she do? Did she shy away from interracial dating as an adult, bite her tongue and shake her head in silent disapproval? Or did she fight bigotry with spirited defiance? Silence and obedience are just as toxic a poison. And the question I'm dying to ask is: Would Shaunti consider marrying a black man? She advocates a stable home where the triple scourge of divorce, atheism and gay marriage endanger children. How would she feel about an interracial marriage fraught with social stigma, family arguments and sarcastic barbs at school? Would she take a stand against racism if her children had to suffer?

I wonder.

I ask because the statistics suggest that many may lament the failings of a racist culture but few want to withstand the approbation when racial boundaries are crossed. Since 1980, interracial marriages have more than doubled but today this still only represents a mere 2 percent of married couples in 2000.

Interracial dating isn't so black and white. Pardon the pun. And yet it is. The Asian population intermixes with any race and this barely raises an eyebrow. Likewise with Hispanics. It's often an issue of black and white relationships. Black men with white women is the most problematic for Americans, even though black men and white women are more than twice as likely to marry than black women and white men.

Resentment and a healthy dose of prejudice are veiled in the tales about the mythic physical endowments of black men. Yet racism isn't only a failing of the white population. Black women often feel betrayed by black men who look outside of their race and choose the arms of an enemy who exemplifies the American ideal. The blond Ivory Girl smile and blue eyes of Tiger Woods' future wife no doubt raised the ire of many who wondered why such a powerful role model to black youth couldn't embrace his own race.

Racism, like the history of marriage, is about power: Who has it, who wants it, how can I get it? People feel betrayed and angry about interracial couples because these couples step across enemy lines. "Can we all just get along?" That's not likely until power among the races is on a level playing field and marriage, or dating, is no longer an act of treason.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: african; asian; black; blacks; caucasian; dating; diversity; intermixed; interracial; marriage; mixed; multiculturalism; pc; white; whites
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To: Jorge; No More Gore Anymore
am color blind. I make it a practice to never notice the color of someone's skin. It makes no difference to me.

I'm not color blind. I enjoy the variety of races and colors in the human race. I like people being different and think it would be boring if we were all the same.

One has to be blind not to notice color and physical differences in another. Background: I also grew up in a state that is (now) 95%-97% white. However; I have always tried to be respectful of everyone I meet, regardless of our physical differences. Now! I might not be as open to a overbearing loud mouth elitist Liberal! ;)

Regards,
fight_truth_decay

161 posted on 01/11/2004 6:42:57 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
No, I think you are missing my point. A person's skin color is irrelevant to me. I see the color differences but they mean nothing to me. They mean nothing to my children.

I was taught as a child, and I still believe that you do not judge a person's character based upon the color of their skin, and I never have. A person is a person to me. Disabled, different colored skin, different religions, different cultures. None of it makes a difference to me.

It is who I am. I don't feel bad about it either.

BTW, I grew up in an area that is 100% pink skinned people.

I am not blind, I am color blind. I wouldn't change that for a moment.

I remember the first time I noticed a person who had darker skin than me... I was a child of 5 and I saw a lady in an elevator who had brown skin. I asked her if she ate a bunch of chocolate to make her skin so dark.( sure now that is embarrassing, but I was a kid)

She said no she was a black woman, and I said oh. Then she said something to my Mom I will never forget , she said "thank you". "Thank you for not teaching this child to be afraid of me, or that I am a color, or that I am bad because my skin is different than hers". I will never forget that. IT is who I am.

That was a lady, a woman with friends and a family, and a heart and a life story.

She was not a color, and I do not think she ever should be.

162 posted on 01/11/2004 7:00:20 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: Quix
It is difficult to "walk away" when one's neighbor pumps >120 decibels of thoroughly irritating noise into your general area at whatever hour he feels convenient, shaking the very foundation of your house.
Multiply that neighbor, and that behavior, by tens of years, hundreds of variations, and tens of thousands of examples, all from the same ethnic group (even if they do not comprise a majority of that group), and you begin to see the inevitable "annoyance" basis for low-grade racial misgivings.
It can be combatted. This is one of the reasons I delight in the company of fellows like mhking, rdb3, and others - they serve -in part- as living reminders that the... twits... I encounter daily are not the alpha to omega of black America.
But... the annoyance persists - because actively seeking such counterexamples seems to be necessary, AND IT SHOULD NOT BE.
163 posted on 01/11/2004 7:25:40 PM PST by King Prout (oh, finding your "core values" in the latest poll, are you, Mr. Dean?)
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To: StarFan
You are way off base. It has nothing to do with Kobe's color but more to do with the Rape Shield Law which protects the accuser's identity and past, be they BLACK OR WHITE.

When I'm wrong, I'll admit it and you're right. It was an off-base comment.

164 posted on 01/11/2004 7:35:40 PM PST by Sister_T (Democrats are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: King Prout
That's easy to agree with!

Alas, some church folks have gotten as obnoxious and hazardous on the noise level! Sigh.
165 posted on 01/11/2004 7:50:07 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: kingu
" best black men turn against their race and marry white women. "

LOL....well, the tide is a'turning, because now, more and more white men are going for black gals and vice-versa....

my son is dating a wonderful black girl who is in college, speaks nice, sent us a Christmas card, and overall seems like a jewel.....she is the best girl that my son has ever gone with, the most decent, the most educated, the most friendly and down to earth...

I think in an ideal world, its better to fall in love and marry within your own "group" but how can I ever be against someone who is making a better man out of my own son....I can't.....infact, I pray that she will be a permanent fixture in my son's life and hopefully, maybe marriage, and perhaps some blessed grandchildren finally....

one thing I have noticed though.....people can say that they aren't prejudiced, like some limosine liberals, but in reality, they are the most evil bigots going....

I truely find that most conservative people are the least bigoted, the the group that is quicker to support other races/religions etc.....like the Freeper Nation....

166 posted on 01/11/2004 7:59:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: mhking
When I was black, not one couple of dozens of our friends, were any one given one , I liked it like dat ;) There was so much bi-racial going on that the UN had nothin' on us!
167 posted on 01/11/2004 8:06:42 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: cyborg
You know, not to knock our american women (well, maybe a little), asian women know how to treat a man. Not that they're "servants" like some guys like to see, but they just know how be a good wife. So many women in this country are so hell-bent on becoming self-sufficient, they act like they don't need us or want us.
168 posted on 01/11/2004 8:15:24 PM PST by pctech
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To: pctech
I told a lady that I didn't want a career, I wanted to be a wife and mother and take care of my husband. Well you thought I grew a third head or something!!! I understand your sentiment. I got the lecture of how a woman needs a career, a woman needs her own money,etc. :YAWN: How are you going to have a marriage without trust?
169 posted on 01/11/2004 8:20:40 PM PST by cyborg
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To: fight_truth_decay
Tiger is part Asian, part white, part Native American, and part African-American.

You ever notice how, despite his mixed race background, he is always 'black' to the politically correct?

As far as I am concerned Tigers race/ethnicity is Golferus Americanus sub.perfectus

Always my favorite in any tournament...Go Tiger!

170 posted on 01/11/2004 8:23:53 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: Jorge
Besides, what's wrong with calling somebody a white man? I'm a white man and proud of it.

It is useful for identifying perps in APBs or Amber Alerts, but in general I consider racial adjectives as unnecessary baggage. I'm a human being and grateful for it.

171 posted on 01/11/2004 8:35:01 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: dcwusmc
It was a beautiful, heartfelt sentiment perfectly put!

Good stuff.

172 posted on 01/11/2004 11:19:49 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I mean YOUR comments were beautiful ... not mine! ;^)

We can butt heads on some other issue. I never grow bored with the inspirational, humane, wise stuff on this Forum. Thanks.

173 posted on 01/11/2004 11:25:37 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: null and void
I believe you have confused dating with courting.

I kissed courting goodbye, because it doesn't work. Old fashioned, principled, marriage-oriented dating of the kind that my parents taught me, is what got me to the altar.

174 posted on 01/12/2004 8:12:50 AM PST by Rytwyng
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To: malcolmtwain
Oops, forgot to mention the drugs/weapons ridden neighborhoods we inhabit. But that's probably our own fault, since we are extremely resistant to burning down the coca and poppy fields in our sprawling backyards and the handgun factories at the corners of our streets.

The simple way to stop drug traffic is to stop buying drugs. No need to go overseas and burn anyone's drug crop. I won't go so far as to say it's "your" fault, because I don't believe in collective guilt. But drug use certainly IS the fault of the drug user.

As for handgun factories -- gun ownership rates and crime rates are generally *inverse* in this country. The most violent cities are the most gun-controlled. Conversely, loosening restrictions has often been shown to reduce crime. So don't burn handgun factories: BUILD them.

175 posted on 01/12/2004 12:30:58 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: Magno
I think it's more important to mary someone that shares your same religious beliefs.
176 posted on 01/12/2004 5:48:06 PM PST by Smogger
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To: cyborg
Did you also note that all of the hateful bilge in the article came from the person on the LEFT? Yep, that's right, the so-called peace-loving, diversity-obsessed Ivory Tower Militants who often accuse those on the Right of being racists. I don't know how many times I'd come across a 'Sleeping With The (White Man)Enemy'-type article in Essence Magazine, or how so many 'Sisters' felt threatened by the mere presence of a White Woman. I finally had enough and cancelled my subscription years ago.

-Regards, T.
177 posted on 01/12/2004 6:05:25 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: T Lady
agree with you completely... Sometimes I'll pick up Jet Magazine depending on who is on the cover BUT very sorry, won't read Essence ever again. Oh it was either Sister2Sister or Essence but a lady wrote an op-ed piece spewing a lot of hate and boy was she surprised (I suppose she thought the readership would agree). Years ago Ebony printed one of my letters. My mom never subscribed to Essence. She did have an Ebony Magazine subcription from a friend once. Only magazine my father allowed in the house was Reader's Digest and National Geographic since 'you could learn something useful'.
178 posted on 01/12/2004 8:22:34 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
It was either the October 1997 or 1998 issue of Essence; the title of the piece: "Dating White: Why Sisters Go There," and yes, it was certainly filled with the same sort of Leftist bilge that made up the rebuttal in this post. And yes, every single letter printed was against the writer's point of view. Just because some of these relationships go bad (but then again, don't most relationships, regardless of who's involved?!) doesn't mean all White men are just out to hit and run, if you catch my drift, like this woman implied in her piece. One thing you need to remember about the Left: they seem to have this tendancy to take isolated incidents and blow them all out of poportion, in other words, making mountains out of molehills. They're the only ones who always obsess about racial issues while claiming to be fair and open-minded. Yeah, right.

-Regards, T.
179 posted on 01/12/2004 8:35:41 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: T Lady
There's no bigger hypocrite/fake/slithering snakey snake than the leftist liberal. :yawn: last night only showed me that al sharpton howard dean dennis krappinich are in the same love train.
180 posted on 01/12/2004 8:50:41 PM PST by cyborg
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