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Say It Ain't So, Dubya
boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop

In politics, it’s good to be up for grabs. And it’s miserable to be a sure thing.

As President Bush will prove today. In an expected announcement of sweeping amnesty and Social Security benefits for illegal Mexican aliens, the president will kick conservatives in the teeth in order to woo Latino voters.

It’s clear proof that the adage “Dance with the one what brung ya” doesn’t apply in the GOP.

In the GOP, conservatives exist to donate money and vote a straight ticket, and then be ignored. At least in this Administration and by this Congress. Time after time, the principles of those who put George W. Bush in office have been compromised and rejected. And now, on an issue that could forever alter the nature of the United States, conservatives are being betrayed by their president.

And, you could argue, so is the country.

What are the details? We won’t learn until today. But it is expected that a new “adjusted work status” will be announced for most of the eight million Mexicans currently in this country illegally. Also, lifetime Social Security benefits will be guaranteed illegal Mexican aliens – even after they leave the United States – if they pay Social Security tax for as little as 18 months.

Lawbreakers will be rewarded, and the American taxpayer will become the primary funder of the Mexican retirement system.

And billions of dollars of wages earned by illegal aliens will continue to be sent back to Mexico – bleeding our prosperity and continuing as the second largest cash source for the Mexican economy.

Why is this happening?

Why is the Republican president selling out everything you would think his party stands for?

Because the Latino vote is in play.

Simply put, the large number of Latinos in America have not yet clearly identified with a political party. And the Republicans want them. The Democratic Party owns the black vote lock, stock and barrel and the Republican Party wants to do the same with the Latino vote.

Democrats hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have African-Americans – that they are an underprivileged minority which needs the Democratic Party to avenge it against the larger American culture.

Republicans hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have American moderates and conservatives – that they are part of the larger American culture.

Democrats want people identified as minorities; Republicans want people identified as the mainstream.

Apparently President Bush believes that the Republican Party can win the heart of Latinos by rewarding millions of illegal Mexican aliens and by creating a welfare entitlement for people who aren’t even Americans.

Specifically, by caving in to a demand by Mexican President Vicente Fox – the author of the policy President Bush will announce today.

Latinos are powerful because they are up for grabs. Conservatives are powerless because they are a sure thing.

Honestly, if conservatives get ticked off at George W. Bush, what are they going to do? Who are they going to vote for?

Howard Dean? Hillary Clinton?

No way.

After being walked on and ignored, conservatives will dutifully come out this fall to support not just President Bush but the Republican Congress. Why?

Because we want judges and cabinet secretaries and protections for guns and free enterprise and property rights – things we didn’t really get this go round but hope to get in the next.

Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party. Both get stroked at election time, and both get some very pretty speeches, but when it comes time to make laws and keep promises, both groups are roundly ignored by their parties.

Critics of this policy – as comments from the White House spokesman already indicate – are going to be labeled xenophobes and bigots. There will be syrupy quotes about this being a nation of immigrants and how new people coming to America make it a better nation.

Well, it used to be that way. When our foreign forefathers came to America to be Americans.

But those days have passed. Overwhelmingly, Mexicans come to America to be Mexicans. The melting pot is broken. The language is not learned, the culture is not adopted, the customs and values are not acquired.

And in a couple of generations the Latin Quarter is going to refer to that part of America west of Louisiana and south of Oregon and Idaho. There is a broad-based Latinization of the United States underway, a cultural conquest that the Mexican army could not win but the American government is willing to surrender.

We are growing our own Quebec, and it speaks Spanish. Latino immigrants, and specifically Mexicans, are wonderful people. Yet their success in this country – and the continued integrity of this country – are dependant on obeying the law and acquiring the culture and values of the American Constitution and heritage.

And that is not done by rewarding those whose first act on American soil was an immigration crime.

Instead of granting amnesty and rewarding lawbreakers, we should make a guest-worker program that lets Mexican immigrants walk honorably through the front door instead of illegally through the back door. We have the jobs, they want the work, let us bring order to putting the two together.

And then secure the borders, with troops if need be, so that illegal immigration stops.

Reward those who do right, not those who do wrong. Quicker, more efficient legal immigration is right. Amnesty is wrong.

And this fool idea of opening the empty Social Security coffers to Mexican nationals in Mexico is insane.

But if insanity buys votes, in an election year it becomes law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; aliens; bush; buyingvotes; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; gwb; illegalmexicans; invasion; kerry; lonsberry; mexico; nader; pandering; plunderamericans; theft; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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To: sasafras
I agree with you that it is WAY past time for Bush to be called to task for his betrayal of conservatives.

A year ago you might have been thrown off FR for proposing what you're proposing. But Bush has brought this all on himself.

Best of luck with your new website.
181 posted on 01/07/2004 8:55:17 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: SONbrad
Sorry... I forgot to add...for High School and less than High School education, most likely working in the jobs that Americans do not wish to work in.
182 posted on 01/07/2004 8:56:43 AM PST by SONbrad
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To: SONbrad
Employed but collecting the EITC because their wages are so low - some benefit.
183 posted on 01/07/2004 8:57:43 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Thanks for the updated graphic. This is 2004, 15 years from the 1989 stats.



184 posted on 01/07/2004 8:59:03 AM PST by texastoo ((go California go. Tell it like it is))
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To: texastoo
I don't think that. But in my CR neighborhood it is these legal Americans that live a life of crime while on welfare that make the very concept of being an "American" look pretty weak next to the Mexicans I see roofing in hundred degree weather. I am suspecting that many of these Mexicans are not quite legal yet but they sure seem more worthy to be citizens.
185 posted on 01/07/2004 8:59:41 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: expat_panama
Speaking of Rush, an odd thought crossed my mind yesterday.

Facing felony charges, is he apt to speak out against the brother of the President , while that brother is Chief Executive in the state where Rush lives?

Whoops, gotta go...Wal-Mart is having a sale on tinfoil.
186 posted on 01/07/2004 9:00:21 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: biblewonk
There is a huge difference between a Mexican immigrant and a first generation Mexican-American. A world of difference.
187 posted on 01/07/2004 9:01:24 AM PST by riri
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To: Marysecretary
I have cleaned toilets for a living. I've mopped floors, emptied wastebaskets, and performed a lot of other work that Rush and many other would claim are 'benneath' an American's dignity. This is a crock of --it. You have to start somewhere. I no longer have to perform such work, but see no shame whatsoever in it. Bush lost my vote long ago, but this wouldn't help if he still had it.
188 posted on 01/07/2004 9:02:18 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: riri
There also seems to be a world of difference between a CR Ia Mexican and a California or Texas one.
189 posted on 01/07/2004 9:02:20 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I agree. Just the amnesty consideration and statements made by Bush and others in his administration are enough for me to withhold my vote for Bush in the coming election.

If he goes through with this plan, I know more than a few that will do the same. It's an outrage!

190 posted on 01/07/2004 9:03:23 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Arpege92
"I feel differently than you do.....I'm not going to vote at all in 2004."

Don't be that way. Not voting does not send a message to the Republicans. You have to let them know that they lost a vote. Go and vote a third party. That way they will see that some conservatives have decided not to be taken for granted.

191 posted on 01/07/2004 9:04:02 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: Prolifeconservative
With the current leadership, I'd say you might be right. Gingrich didn't care. What is amazing about him was at the time, wasn't he the only R from Georgia? Now what's Georgia's delegation look like today? More than half are R's.

Gingrich had a full backbone installed, to the point where he shut down the government. It backfired on him, but he proved you could be principled and still maintain R control, at least in the House.
192 posted on 01/07/2004 9:04:57 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Only those who dare truly live - CGA 88 Class Motto)
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To: SONbrad
"And yuo would do this even if the election were a toss-up where people who think as you could throw the election to Howard Dean? You seriously think that would be better? The Democrats would be laughing all the way to the White House.

Personally I would rather not cut off my nose to spite my face."


Then tell me why is Bush doing this - few if any conservatives are supporting his proposal. In fact most of middle America is against it as well. Bush should know that this will cost him votes. But I think he believes that liberals, moderates and hispanics will vote for him because of this - he is wrong dead wrong - they will not vote for him and will wonder why a democrat got elected when things were seemingly so good. Do I want a democrat as president, no but I think we already have one in office. At least with a republican congress their might be less of our rights being given so freely away.
193 posted on 01/07/2004 9:05:17 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: biblewonk
Papacito works like a piston--but Mijo does not know how. He's just angry all the time. And Mija just dreams of having babies of her own.

And the Anglos in their MacMansions (12,000 sq feet, ten bathrooms) on the lake will find that the next generation doesn't act so humble, nor is so anxious to do menial service.

194 posted on 01/07/2004 9:05:58 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: shortstop
No Guts No Glory; the American people have abandoned their National Inheritance and their Birthright to Socialism by not fighting back with a National Referendum that would force a showdown of wills. A nation of wimps bowing to a Tin Horn Mexican Bandit! Warnings after warnings go un-heeded and we have not the will to Recall, Impeach or Redress our Socialist TRAITORS! NOBODY!... Is "above" this AMORAL OUTRAGE! Shame on you AMERICA for showing absolutely no BACKBONE against spinless TYRANTS!
195 posted on 01/07/2004 9:06:09 AM PST by winker
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To: Burkeman1
It's not as if we didn't know this was going to happen? A major part of Bush's election strategy was courting the hispanic vote. I don't recall Bush ever taking any kind of serious stand on illegal immigration. He is hardly breaking any promises that he made to conservatives here. He never did as far as I remember. No one should be surprised by this.

GWB learned from his father that broken campaign promises are to be avoided. Too bad he didn't pay closer attention; he would've realized that more people were disappointed in his father because he caved-in to the Democrats on a number of issues, one of which being the new taxes.

The fact that George W. Bush is breaking no campaign promises is sort of beside the point. If he does something so monumentally foolish as pressing this amnesty issue, he will alienate (no pun intended) more Republican voters than Rove is probably gambling on. With such a lame lineup of Democrat candidates, this is literally George Bush's election to lose. It looks like he's going to attempt to do just that, too.

196 posted on 01/07/2004 9:06:37 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: biblewonk
CR Ia Mexican

I keep seeing that, what does it mean?

197 posted on 01/07/2004 9:07:51 AM PST by riri
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To: sasafras
He's moving left to force Dean even father left.

Hah--Dean should try speaking in front of union membership and say, "American jobs for American taxpayers and citizens" and listen to the applause.

This is an issue that conservatives and unions could unite on.

America is at war and its not illegals who defend us--they are citizens and legal resident aliens in uniform.

If Bush isn't loyal to them, why should they be loyal to BUsh?

198 posted on 01/07/2004 9:09:02 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
And the Anglos in their MacMansions (12,000 sq feet, ten bathrooms) on the lake will find that the next generation doesn't act so humble, nor is so anxious to do menial service

Well, South America is run by ethnic minorities. I guess we are going to take the gamble and see if we can't pull it off ourselves. Using the same economic and employment model too.

199 posted on 01/07/2004 9:09:53 AM PST by riri
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To: riri
Sorry, Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The best city in the world by the way.
200 posted on 01/07/2004 9:12:26 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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